iveco twin cab 4x4

Was a recent write up on them on one of the online 4x4 magazines , lot cheaper than a Tug and bush tracker with "real" 4x4 capability ….. look into places that do Ambulance fit outs etc for design and build , cheaper yet stronger than c/van builders.

There are several 4WD motorhome builders converting them.
All Terrain Warriors, http://www.allterrainwarriors.com.au/
Travel Trucks, http://www.traveltrucks.com.au/ and others.
Look good on paper, have heard some reports of overheating transfer cases. Popular platform in Europe.
It would go places a Bushtracker will never go.

Lots of good information here...http://www.manins.net.au/truck_camper/

Cheers,
Peter
OKA196 motorhome

Garry, was look at the Iveco range the other day, mostly the Daily 4x4, but also noted the Eurocargo 4x4 which you could fitout very smartly.

This is the one you're looking at ?

Might not be as easy in desert dunes or tighter tracks of the high country as much as the shorter wheel base Daily, but would be an awesome tourer !!

Garry, pretty sure MFI in Warragul had a dual cab one of these in the other day fitting a camper to it. Maybe worth a call to Dallas and ask for your contact details to passed on to the owner, he maybe able to help you with your questions/queries. Was a good looking set up too..........
PS. When I replied to this post there was no replies, when I posted there are a few, even one from you about MFI, LOL

Saw this example at Big Red Bash last year, along with a 2nd one camped nearby.



Up until that time these were on my Shortlist, together with Landcruiser 79 ute, for a new vehicle, that could legally carry my slide on camper. Bit naive of me I suppose, but didn't realise just how "tall" they are. Not much shorter than a Kenworth. :-) Be good for highway and off-road, but I also wanted it for a bit of town work too. Bought the 'cruiser........

Alan Whiting has a good video or two on YouTube about these, that are worth watching........maybe I should have bought one?

Bob

Go all out and get a unimog.
70k youd grab the one off the gumtree site and have 30-35k to blow on the back camper setup.
its a dualcab
fully restored and sound proofed as much as youd get a unimog.
be a weapon to start off with
the chassis in the iveco arent all that thick

cheers
best of luck on the choice
and post up your purchase , build

Gee my memory of my job of test driving unimogs at Puckapunyal left me with not much desire of cruising the highways. But awesome off road of course.

Caught up with a party of three Ivecos at Durba spring last month, the owners love them, having moved on from cruisers and patrols.
The Iveco website blurb lists some very impressive info on the 4x4 configurations:
They are built on a truck chassis
Are fitted with a IVECO FIC 3.0 litre 4 cylinder 16 valve turbo diesel engine that puts out 170 hp/125 KWs between 3000 to 3500 rpms and 400 newtons of torque between 1250-3000 rpms
Has permanent all wheel drive with three available differential locks (front, rear, and central); it has 24 forward and 4 reverse gear ratios (now that’s a lot of gears)
Feature a:
o 3.4 metre wheelbase and an overall length of 5.43 metres
o 4.49 tonne GVM with an option of 5.5 tonne GVM
o 36deg departure angle, 50deg approach angle and ramp over 31deg
o fording depth up to 700mm
o 12 volt system with a 140 amp alternator
Suspension: front has parabolic 3 leaf springs with hydraulic telescopic shock absorbers and reinforced 24mm stabiliser bar and rear has parabolic 4 leaf springs, with hydraulic telescopic shock absorbers and reinforced 28mm stabiliser bar
Heated, suspended and fully adjustable driver’s seat
Overhead console with storage shelf
And all the usual other gear including electric windows, cruise control, door pockets and two cup and two bottle holders.
Service intervals are 40,000 kms.

Hi John Yes a serious BB.
They went to specialist bull bar manufacturer Kentweld Engineering Victoria who experimented to get it right. The bars are made of alloy and weigh 38 kgs including winch mount.

There is a few build threads for these on MySwag

I also have considered same, for desert travel with 3 to 6 people. A significant benefit of a unit like this is that there is no need for a trailer. I'd fit a custom canopy (not a sleeping canopy, just storage).

Here are some figures which may need to be factored to make the unit a real bush beast:

GVM 4495 kg.
Payload 2655 kg.
By way of comparison a 70 series dual cab Tojo has 1085 Kg payload, Mazda BT 50 Dual cab 1139 kg, 200 series Tojo wagon has 715 kg.


Iveco Daily 4x4 $108,332 plus on road costs
suspension up grade $1,350
custom canopy $12,000
canopy fit out $3,000
snorkel $750
tyres & rims $5,150
roofrack $1,500
window tint $350
towbar $1,120 may not be necessary
L R fuel tank 160 L $3,550 retaining 90 L OE tank
solar panels $2,000
bullbar $1,590
engine chip/remap $1,695
2nd batt etc $2,650
Misc (winch + spare tyre mounts etc) $4,995
diff & transfer case breathers $590
seat frame reduction $810
water tank 185 L $1,970

total $151,432

Makes it a serious contender, IMHO, if starting from scratch & with a healthy bank balance.

For what it's worth, a Mazda BT 50 dual cab (as near as spit to this fit out) would cost $111,314; a 70 series dual cab $134,880; and a 200 series would have to tow a trailer and would cost $148,625, including a well built trailer.

For me there are still some questions which need to be answered, like:

* Wheel track (i.e. width) - is it compatable with outback tracks which are OK with Tojo, Mazda etc 4WD's?
* Body width may be an issue on scrubby tracks, as might height.
* Is it easy to drive or do you have to drive every inch of the way, like in a Tojo 70 series?
* I presume wuith an engine re-map/chip, torgue & power will be OK?
* What is the ride like up front, sitting what looks to be like just behind the front axle?

See these sites as well:

http://www.goannatracks.com
/Home/Super_Single_Rims_for_Canter,_Isuzu_%26_Iveco.html
http://www.traveltrucks.com.au/explorer-work-module


Interesting stuff, eh?

Have a look on the AULRO forum as a couple of members have actually bought and converted Ivecos.
They have had quite a bit of trouble with them although they love them.
Apparently the brakes are so bad that one bloke has designed and built a brake upgrade which is now commercially available.
Also a few have dropped their transfer case most notably on the Canning, and Iveco sent some techs out with a replacement to fix it!!! I don't think they will do that too often.LOL.
Another problem reported was that the radiator jumped from its mounts on the Canning.
It sounds to me a bit of a half baked development process..
Regards Philip A

I had one, sold it a year later, I lost $100,000 on the sale, but was a very happy man when it drove out.

I now have a Mazda.

At least the Japanese have pride when it comes to warranty.

Garry

The thing I would be worried about the most is long term reliability.
Are they really suitable for Australian conditions . ( BIG QUESTION MARK )

We're running a couple of Iveco single cabs with service bodies at work & have had quite a few nagging issues. One is on it's 3rd turbo, drinks oil, transfer case issue the same problem another one had at the Beyond Buckland event. Tyres on the 5 tonner are near impossible to get & over $800 each meaning you'll be up for different wheels/tyres next time. (Originals don't wear that well on the road anyway.
Personally I think the height to get in/out, roll over potential & speed limited to 100 doesn't lend it'self to touring Australia & the increased cost to modify & service means hands in pocket all the time..

Here is a test drive done by owner driver. In the actual original editorial he was not happy about the brakes at all, this was not reported in the video. Anyway here is the Video

Just a comment about "used in Africa"
In my month in ZA, Namibia, Botswana , and Zambia I didn't see a single one.

Lots of Land Rovers though, and a Ford Falcon ute! and of course lots of the scummiest Land Cruisers you have ever seen. I recall one that was a cut down viewing ute that had broken the Apillar clean away from the firewall.

The tour groups now seem to use mostly 8 Tonne 2 wheel drive Toyota trucks with a custom body, as they found the old merc4x4s too expensive to upkeep.

In any case even the dirt the roads in ZA and Namibia are excellent, and far better than OZ as they have teams of graders going all the time complete with trailer and second wife( who is chosen by the first wife to avoid AIDS)
Regards Philip A