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Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 19:57

Wayne (NSW)

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Last weekend at driver training we had 3 all wheel drive vehicles that up to now have not been around much. The Ford Territory, Volvo X Country and the BMW X5.
As with a lot of vehicles that are on the market to-day they all have some typr of traction control. Knowing how they work and what control the driver has over the traction control or what eles the driver can do to the vehicle. Turning the hill decent on is a common one but in the case of the BMW it also has DSC ( Dynamic Steering Control, which cuts power to the motor and applies brake if the vehicle is sliding, can be turned off for off road work and sand.)
The BMW had a 3lt turbo diesel motor and auto tranmission. It comes with 19" tyres,that are over $800 each. The vehicle has a lot of power 150kw @ 4000rpm and 480nm@2000rpm ( makes the 3lt Nissan look under powered)
We put the BMW up a climb that we use on our advance course and it got a lot further that we all expected, the traction control worked very quick and had all four wheels turning. Even though it had run out of wheel travel the lack of good tyres let it down. The owner of the vehicle had changed the rims to 17" so it would be possible to run better tyres. The hill decent worked well and could be adjusted by the driver to suit the decent.
What I did like, and it is a gimic is on the drivers seat it had 3 buttons, one for the owner, there partner and the third for the mechanic. When the button was pressed for the driver at the time the seat, steering wheel, radio and wing mirrors were set for that driver.
A hard core 4WD it is not but as a touring vehicle that had to tow a camper it would be great.

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AnswerID: 82794   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 21:05

AndrewX replied:

Sounds like a good vehicle and a very comprehensive report. Re your comment on the underpowered Nissan 3l TD, I think it's commonly accepted that it's an under powered and overstressed unit - hence the huge number of problems they have been shown to have. The bigger less stressed 4.2 is the better choice I think.
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AnswerID: 82795   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 21:06

Rosco - Bris. replied:

..."A hard core 4WD it is not but as a touring vehicle that had to tow a camper it would be great."

That about says it all. Perhaps good for snow covered roads up to the Alps for a Moet weekend.

....:-?

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FollowupID: 341861   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 22:08

Truckster (Vic) posted:

Agree! and for the $100k+ Price tag, I can think of 50 better 4bs for 1/2 the price
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FollowupID: 341883   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 08:35

Utemad posted:

A 3.0 GU is $50 000..................would you buy two of those instead??? LOL
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FollowupID: 341901   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 11:03

Truckster (Vic) posted:

I would and throw the motors away and put in 4.2/6.5/7.3's in them.
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FollowupID: 341921   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 16:02

Bob of KAOS posted:

Truckster,
you ought to see someone about that chip on your shoulder :-)
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FollowupID: 341935   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 18:10

Wayne (NSW) posted:

Just had a look in the Overlander mag under buyer's guide and the price of a 100 Series turbo diesel $70,990
Nissan 3.0lt ST $50,990
Nissan 4.2lt $58,900
Sahara turbo diesel $91,100
BMW X5 turbo diesel $81,900

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FollowupID: 342004   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 09:58

Truckster (Vic) posted:

The top model 4.4 was $122k last yr, mate was 2nd incharge of workshop at Meneres in Brighton, he brought a few home at different times...
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FollowupID: 342005   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 09:58

Truckster (Vic) posted:

PS. Overlander - the magazine that said it was 4wd of the yr.. You take them seriously?
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FollowupID: 342006   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 10:01

Truckster (Vic) posted:

Redbook.
2004 BMW X5

E53 MY04 Wagon is 4dr SA 6sp 4x4 500kg 4.8i (Feb onwards)
NEW PRICE $157,000

http://www.redbook.com.au/vehiclesearch/price.asp?key=BMW%2004IZ&veh=y

2004 BMW X5

E53 MY04 Wagon 4dr SA 6sp 4x4 580kg 4.4i
Trade in price guide* $88,200 - $96,500
National average price - private sale* $95,500 - $106K
Price when new (RRP) $111K

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