Site Search
Print Page Setup Profile Login
You have 4 items in your shopping cart
Section Image

LPG energy cell revisited...

Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 15:10

Lone Wolf

... well, sort of...

I have seen this sort of thread come up a few times, whereby a large fridge or RAPS manufacturer is playing around with the idea of using LPG to convert heat into useable electricity.

Well, It will probably happen, one day, and be good enough to power small things.

Consider this....

I cannot think why a group of people camping or touring would really want one of these, except to power a fridge. Everything else we have runs fine using the current technology that we have now.

So, a compressor fridge is the go, especially if you are on the go, and the 3 way is best on gas, and draws way too much electricity to be a viable contender whilst touring.

So....

How come we cant have a fridge with both operating systems?

Really, ponder it...... it would be using available technology, not reinventing the wheel, and be efficient in all modes of power usage.

Now, I'm not a fridge tech dude, but I know there are some on this forum, who may be able to tell us either why it can't be done..... or why I'm an intelligent. forward thinking, inventive guy.....

So, I guess the first step is to see if it can be done, and then see if It's viable. Imagine, no solar panels, extra batteries and stuff....... just a gas bottle!

Cheers

Wolfie
Advertisement
ThreadID: 18316 Replies: 4
Views: 615 FollowUps: 2
This Thread has been Archived
Thread Summary
Thread Watch Back To Forum Alert Moderator FAQ
AnswerID: 87275   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 15:53

David Au replied:

It is all dream time stuff and downright lies that there is a portable cheap solution on the horizon. Just another scam from scammers and purveyors of misinformation. You need to realise, if any of this was factual it would be on the front of the worlds newspapers.
Reply 1 of 4
AnswerID: 87285   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 19:16

Member - Sparkie (QLD) replied:

It would be nice to have that technology today. they can make electronics on such a minute scale you need a microscope just to see the parts involved(eg CPU's in computers) and they are toying with some amazing technology to make thing faster and smaller so maybe one day BOOM it might just happen.

They use gas now to create electricity in substations so instead of thinking big these guys need to make it smaller?

Just fancifull thinking for now but if you ever invented something like that Wolf meister I would probably buy one of you( at mates rates of course) ;-)

Sparkie(IE not Y) ;-)
Reply 2 of 4
FollowupID: 346035   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 19:58

Lone Wolf posted:

" but if you ever invented something like that Wolf meister I would probably buy one "

Bugger......

I was throwing down the gauntlet!!!

I want someone else to make it, and call it.....

ARCTIC WOLF ™®

How cool is that!!

Cheers

I'm gonna be rich on royalties Wolf...
FollowUp 1 of 2
FollowupID: 346077   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 23:54

Member - Bradley posted:

Hey sparks, the gas powered small power stations use fairly large gas turbine engines spinning generators , so even 'downsized' would still cost about 5-8 million....

Click Image to Enlarge
On the lookout for 98 onwards v6 auto jack.
FollowUp 2 of 2
AnswerID: 87321   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 10:29

Member - Sparkie (QLD) replied:

Bradley, I guess mates rates wont get me very far then?
Reply 3 of 4
AnswerID: 87336   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 13:39

Member - Collyn R (WA) replied:

David Au is right re this. Most of what is published on portable low-priced fuel cells is fantasy.

The technology exists. The products exist. But right now the only fuel cell on the commercial market that even vaguely would do the job costs over A$10,000.

We will eventually see these things. At one time I thought it be by the end of 2005 but people who really know about this field now forecast commercial availablity of a 750-1000 watt 12-volt unit at less than $1000 to be unlikely before 2010.

But it is a matter of when - not if.

In the meantime most of the drum beating is to attract venture capital.

I have just written an update on fuel cells. It is published in the current CMCA 'The Wanderer' magazine. I will post a version of it on my website later this week.
Collyn Rivers
Collyn
"The problem is not so much what people don't know - it's what they think they know that simply isn't true."
Ample Power Company, USA
Reply 4 of 4
Activities Index
Circus Workshop For 4 People - Sunshine Coast Circus Workshop For 4 People - Sunshine Coast
Sunshine Coast - QLD
Join us for a fun day learning the tricks of the trade!
Ultimate Thrill Ride - 3 Hot Laps in a WRX STi Ultimate Thrill Ride - 3 Hot Laps in a WRX ST
Gold Coast - QLD
Guaranteed front seat for you in a WRX STi Rally Car !
Team Building on a Americas Cup Class Yacht Team Building on a Americas Cup Class Yacht
Sydney - NSW
Hoist the sails and get on the grinders.
Melbourne City Sights K1 Melbourne City Sights K1
Melbourne - VIC
AAT Kings' Melbourne City Sights Tour takes you to the highlights of the city.
Book Now - Things To Do