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I like to fiddle...

Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 20:15

Lone Wolf

... and dream of making out...................................................

ooops ..... outlandish things out of metal. Sucked In!!!!

Anyway, this is an idea I had, and I'm hoping some well versed veterans & guru's of tyre changing can put me on the right path.

I have just purchased some Tyre Pliers ( set of 2 ) and their Bead Breaker.

I remember as a kid on the station, fixing tyres on Tojo's, damn hard work. Probably did say..... 3 - 4 a week.

Now, I was thinking........ what if I made up a boss, that dropped onto my wheel, lets say..... 5 stud Honda. This boss would simply be a plate with 5 studs on it, which I place on the wheel I am about to repair. Place a couple of nuts from underneath to keep it in place.

On top of the plate ( the one with the matching studs), I simply have a small shaft, sat around 300 mm. in length, with maybe a small plate on the top of that.

The idea behind this is to perhaps stand on the wheel, and one the tyre lever has started to remove the tyre, you simply use the boss as a fulcrum point, to rotate the lever around.

Sort of a bit like the "Tyre Pliers" toll that can attach to your Bullbar, but this one simply bolts to your wheel.

Any thoughts, good, bad, ugly, maybe even hero worship, will be appreciated.

Cheers

Wolfie

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AnswerID: 96141   Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 20:26

Cabbage replied:

Bugger all that Wolfie, I just ring Beaurepaires

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FollowupID: 354910   Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 20:32

Lone Wolf posted:

I used to, until I had an event a few weeks ago up at Marree.

I suddenly realised, that I need to carry another tyre, as well as my spare, because you pay dearly for tyres in the bush.

I don't have a problem with that, I mean, hey, the General store owner has to but a few tyres on spec, and they might sit in his yard for ages, but he saved my skin. Never blinked an eyelid when he told me the price....... just happy to be on my way again.

Willem suggested to me just before Christmas that he is about to carry another spare TYRE, not a rim, and he will store clothes & stuff inside it to save space.

I am now doing this with both my vehicles, but need the tyre changing tools to enable me to be more self sufficient.

Cheers

Wolfie
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AnswerID: 96150   Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 21:14

Member Eric replied:

I use my high lift Mate , never taken me longer that 2 min to pop a beed

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FollowupID: 354961   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 07:04

Lone Wolf posted:

I had a funny thought......

Picture this......

High lift jack on the little Honda, and it tips over, trying to pop a bead!!!

Shlt it's funny!!

Wolfie
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FollowupID: 355095   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 20:55

GOB & denny vic member posted:

nero liked to fiddle to wolfie and look what happened there
lolololol
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AnswerID: 96160   Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 21:59

Truckster (Vic) replied:

drive over it, takes no more than 5 seconds to pop a bead..
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FollowupID: 354933   Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 22:06

Truckster (Vic) posted:

PS we had a blackout tonight for 3 hours, I did a bit of fiddling...
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FollowupID: 354960   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 07:02

Lone Wolf posted:

That's it.....

I'm goin' outside to flick my safety switch!

The fact that it's 8 0'clock in the morning won't matter!

Wolfie
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AnswerID: 96171   Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 23:29

Member - Brian H (WA) replied:

Sounds like you've put a lot of thought into it .... but I have to ask ...... where do you draw the line at how much to carry? The wheels on my camper match my cruiser. That gives 2 rolling spares. So far I've never needed to change more than 1 on a trip.
I've seen the pliers in use ..... looked much easier at the show than out on the track. Seen what can happen when you miss the bead when driving over it to break it to .... wheel stands up and bashes panel .... provided you can drive on after a flat ..... any way I ramble.
Sounds like something else to carry and find a hole for ..... even though it may save a few minutes.
I'm not knocking the idea ..... it's just not for every one.

All the best.
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FollowupID: 354955   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 06:55

Lone Wolf posted:

I'm a bugger for that!

Once & a while, I systematically go thru my stuff, and shelve the things I don't need to take. Look at the small pile I have now sitting on the floor, then..................

............ go to the camping store........... to buy more toys!!

Tell me....... I'm not the only one!!

Wolfie
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FollowupID: 354970   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 07:44

Member - Wim (Qld) posted:

Wolfie

O/K as long as you don't tell anyone.
No you are not the only one who collects new toys.
Mate I like to wet a line as well as camp, what do you think my shed looks like.
Oh, then there are the "handy man tools". Need I so more :-)

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AnswerID: 96175   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 01:02

V8troopie replied:

Wolfie, I was thinking about your wonderful idea until it started hurting ( didn't take long :-), and came to the conclusion it would not work.
You know the thing with levers, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. So, you're probably end up spinning the wheel around in the process of trying your idea. That is why they mount that 'thing' onto the bull bar, you can't spin the whole car around :-)

P.S. I looked at the 'tyre pliers' and decided to buy the 'bead breaker' instead.

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FollowupID: 354956   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 06:58

Lone Wolf posted:

I sort of thought it might spin...... wasn't too sure, 'cause I was going to stand on it as well.

Needs more thought.

Bugger.

Wolfie
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AnswerID: 96176   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 05:35

Member - John replied:

Wolfie, made up my own "thingie", modeled on Tyer Pliers one that attaches to the bull bar, great piece of gear. Mine is in three pieces and fits in a pretty small box, unlike the Tyre Pliers one. I agree with the last comment, I think it would just spin around, needs to be attached to something substantial.
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FollowupID: 354958   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 07:00

Lone Wolf posted:

John.......

I think me, and lots of other people would be like thinking.........
"Wouldn't it be good if we could see some photo's....."

Can you oblige?

Sounds like a top bit of kit, and I'm really into R & D....... ( Rob & Duplicate ).

Wolfie
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AnswerID: 96181   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 07:18

Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) replied:

" you like to fiddle" Leave it alone,, it might just fall of!!
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AnswerID: 96195   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 08:14

MrBitchi replied:

Wolfie,
Found the quickest way to pop the bead (apart from driving over the tyre) is to use the hydraulic jack under the towbar onto the side of the tyre. Much less effort than the tyre pliers and easier than a hi-lift. Don't have to carry anything extra either.

Cheers, John.
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FollowupID: 355041   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 16:00

Lone Wolf posted:

THAT.......THAT is the best idea I have personally seen for a long time!!

Wolfie
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FollowupID: 355138   Submitted: Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 08:31

MrBitchi posted:

Idea came courtesy of Phil Gaukroger at Lcool.org
He's made up an adapter for the towbar but I find its just as easy to put the jack under the tongue of the Pajero's bar.

bead breaker

Cheers, John.
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AnswerID: 96228   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 10:39

Member - Bradley replied:

geez wolfie, and i was thinking of getting you to make a prototype article for me, until i read your R & D policy.......

:-)))

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AnswerID: 96255   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 13:38

Member - W.Wallace replied:

Mate, you should have just bought an R&R beadbreaker kit.
I can take tyres off & put new casing on rim while sitting in a deck chair
the whole time. :)

Luv all your posts though, keep me very entertained.
Your'e one off centre unit.
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FollowupID: 355060   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 18:04

Member - John (Vic) posted:

Spot on.
The R & R kills every other idea.

Does everything you want with almost zero effort and it's all relatively compact.

I to laugh at all the silly things people do with tyres.
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FollowupID: 355070   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 18:22

Lone Wolf posted:

Okay............... here we go...........

Infinity BUGGERS!!!!!!

I was up at Teworie not long ago, on the way to Willems, and stopped next door to this place.

Now, I've just bought Tyre Pliers Levers & Bead Breaker.

( Insert more buggers here..... ).

might have to have a closer look at this bit of work.

Buggered Wolf
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AnswerID: 96336   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 20:50

Bonz (Vic) replied:

Wolfie you can get a fitting that clamps to your front bullbar and you sit the tyre on that and do the job, sounds like the same idea you are flumming about with.

Good luck, great ideas are found from humble beginnings

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AnswerID: 96429   Submitted: Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 10:53

Member - Michael replied:

Wolfie forget the Tyre Pliers too much hard work, I went for a similar thing called a Beadbreaker you can remove a tyre on your tailgate or table cost ~$300 have used them twice and hardly worked up a sweat. A mate who had Tyre Plyers borrowed my Bead Breaker and since mothballed his Tyre Pliers and gone for the Bead Breaker. From memory they're made in SA
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AnswerID: 96485   Submitted: Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 16:30

Member - John replied:

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