BenSpoon replied:

I warned ya mate
Be thankful you havent got a 100 series... they are another 200kg ontop of an 80!

The Rambler replied:

Davoe,
As a matter of interest Iweighed my fully loaded Troopy last year before my trip and she went 3.2 t which also was more than I thought but that is with 180l of fuel and 60l of water plus the usual camping and recovery gear.

Member - Jeff M (WA) replied:

I had the same thing with the surf. I went over the weight bridge at my local dump towing a small box trailer (250kg).

I had:
1. No water or tank (I was rebuilding it at the time).
2. No tools or recovery gear (as they were out while I was doing the tank).
3. No storage box (as I was building a new one around the tank).
4. An almost empty tank of diesel.
5. Myself (105kg) and my father in law (75kg)

With the empty trailer on a little over 2400kg.
Car is 1750kg T and has no bullbar, only a factory nudge.
????
So 1750kg
+ 105
+ 75
+ 250
= 2180

That's a 220kg difference?

Max - Sydney replied:

Davoe

I can never work it out either. My 80, with same sort of stuff as you fitted is about 2780 kg coming out of the tip every time, varies a bit with fuel load.

On the rego papers it shows Tare of 2010 kg, GVM of 2960 and GCM of 3260 kg. All I can say is that to get down to 2010 it must be dead set dry - no oils, fuel or anything - maybe no air in the tyres?

Max

Peter 2 replied:

Tare weights as provided by the manufacturer for new vehicles are a 'dry' production weight, no fluids at all in anything, no jack, tools and probably no spare tyre either. They may have even left off the weight of some of the trim.
When I had to weigh my Humvee for rego it was a full weight, with all fluids, about 30 litres of fuel etc. No spare tyre or tools though.

Member - Athol (NSW) replied:

Last Sept the night before leaving for our trip I thought , wonder how much this all weights ?. So I drove to work we have very accurate electronic weightbridges for our trucks, so it was all fueled up, watered up and the fridge full of beer and food etc ready to go. Oh and had the tinny on top with the outboard etc in the back of ute. Shock horror the lot came in at 2980kg without the two of us, I nearly stayed home. No wonder I get such bad fuel economy. I guess it all adds up.

Athol.

Member - Errol (York WA) replied:

I don't feel so bad now .

Truckster (Vic) replied:

Never trust the scales at Tips.. they are used to MAKE MONEY...

goto a proper weighbridge..

Richard & Leonie replied:

Now guys, if I offered you a one of two new 4X4’s to buy but said with one you have to carry 10 bags of cement around in it all the time, what would you buy? If I also told you the one with the 10 bags of cement has a 2.7 lt diesel motor and the other had a 3.0 lt motor what would you say then? Finally if I told you one was British made and the other Japanese, which one would you choose? If both cars were second hand which one would you buy?

The Discovery weighs in a porky 2718 kgs and the Prado at 2289 kgs. Basically the Discovery weighs half a tonne more. I think the Discovery is going to have a heart attack long before the Prado, especially as the Discovery has a smaller heart than the Prado?

When it comes to weight problems the Discovery wins hands down. Mind you it is made for Motorways and short distances. If you drove in Britain a quarter of the way you can in Oz in one day you would fall over the edge. Probably the furthest they go off road in the old dart is the car park at the local rugby match or the gravel driveway up to the big house on a grouse shoot.

My Frontera fully laden for three months on the road with a trip to the top end thrown in as well as lots of national parks weighs in at 2456 kg. That includes 150 lts of fuel, 50 lts of water and me and the wife. With that weight aboard we averaged 15 lt per 100 kms for the whole trip. However I would like a deisel and a bit more space.

Peter 2 replied:

there is an interesting article at http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=9620
regarding vehicle weights and carrying capacity, how long before ins companies and authorities start to take a look at the average 4wd loaded for an outback trip.

Cabbage replied:

I suppose all you people realize that none of the motoring clubs [racv.racq.raa etc]
will carry your vehicle on your membership card. I found out the hard way last month when I stripped an axle spline 120k's from Broken Hill. Qoute for tow into the Hill was $920 thank you. All the clubs have a limit of two [2] tonnes which will exclude all of us. I've got an F100 4wd and with just the usual junk in the back weighs in at 2700kgs. With all the stuff for trip goes just over 3000kg, plus an 11 metre van at 3200kgs puts me almost 4000kg over the limit. They don't tell you this when you pay your m/ship only when the tilt-tray gets to you.
And $100 per hour at the garage in the Hill.

Leave nothing but footprints and take nothing but photos
Cabbage