Vic Speed Camera farce

I'm no fan of the camera fraternity but the counter argument to yours would be "Imagine how much higher it would be without them"

There is no win either way I guess.

Hi John, the problem is that there is no evidence to prove that they are a deterrent.

NSW has them everywhere and there is no change in there toll either, Qld does not have them and yet there’s is the same as well.

My point is that as they are making so much money from these cameras, why are they not using the money to do more to reduce the toll.

How on earth does receiving a find for speeding, 2 weeks after the event, slow you down on the day it happened.

Nothing is more affective than sitting beside the road with a marked or unmarked police car behind you and seeing the smiles on all the passing motorists.

Here’s an interesting story from Canada. After first installing speed cameras, a study was carried out and found that people, who were less likely to speed in the first place, were now involved in more accidents than before the cameras were installed.

The finding of the study produced evidence that there had in some cases been an increase in minor accidents because people were spending so much time looking at there speedos.

The conclusion, the Canadian government has now removed the speed cameras.

Could you imagine that sort of honesty from any of our governments.

Cheers.

I am glad that the cameras are on the roads. The revenue gained, in Queensland anyway, goes to Treasury consolidated revenue and is used to pay for other services.

As the coppers say - it is a voluntary contribution, it is up to you whether you want to contribute or not.

Motor vehicle crashes and the road are going to happen no matter what because we are human and we do human things.

I would like to see permanent speed cameras outside all schools in Brisbane - just to get the local parents to slow down a bit. I would lie to see more speed cameras on the beaches around the Sunshine and Fraser Coasts so that those selfish speeders may learn something about sharing beach spaces with others and that there are people on the beach besides themselves.

The above two gripes of mine are simple stuff - not much thought required.

Just my rant

Seanny

They should be out on the open road where accidents have occurred due to speed, not sneakily hiding where they have extended the 70 or 80 zone to way out of town, where the accident risk is very low. That's how they seem to work in WA - revenue raisers. A few police cars driving along the highway makes everyone slow down - speed cameras just make drivers angry. That's my rant, even though i haven't ever got a speeding ticket. Motherhen

Vic does seem to be a bit tough. 3 weeks after entering for the first time, I received a letter in the mail saying I hadn't payed the Toll. Funn how I didn't even go through a toll booth. I didn't see the signs either as I was too busy trying to go the right way.

Then, a week after that I got done for 5k over the limit (that's 1k over the 4k they allow for speedo mistake).

What a joke! Talk about revenue raising!

I am contesting both, and will not be paying...period.

Hi Brian B, true Qld has got speed cameras and has had them for about 8 years, I know, cause I got my picture taken two weeks after they were introduced.

The difference is that Beattie to date has made it quite clear that he will not introduce fixed speed cameras and this is the type that both Vic and NSW make all there money from.

The type that Qld uses ( and are in use in NSW and Vic ) are the manned type and can actually be set up in black spots whereas the fixed type are almost always put in areas where people speed but there has never had an accident.

To prove the point. Henry Lawson Drive, is Sydney’s south west, prior to the tallowy opening, had sections of road with 100 kph sections.

As soon as the tallowy opened, the speed was reduced to 60 kph and a camera installed. Now they were having so many accidents on this section of road that the camera was a necessity NOT.

There were very very few accidents on this road and the only reason the speed was lowered was to force people on to the PRIVATELY owned tallowy.

This camera is now one of the top three money making cameras in the state.

I for one like the ordinary manned speed traps because you never know where they are, whereas the fixed cameras are know especially by the very people that need to be court.

As has been stated a number of times above, it’s police presents that reduces speed and accidents NOT fixed speed cameras.

As I posted earlier and with a bit of clarification, I thing these FIXED speed cameras are nothing more that an immoral form of tax.
Cheers

Years ago, in the days before cameras, I used to travel regularly from Brisbane to Sydney and/or Melbourne for work. When you crossed the QLD border everyone slowed down to 100Kph cause the roads were crawling with cops in both marked and unmarked cars. You didn't dare speed.
Nowadays it's the opposite. Cross the QLD border and LETS GO!! If you sit on 100kph you're the slowest car on the road.
The powers that be have taken to using speed cameras instead of real coppers in cars. These cameras have very little deterrent effect. Why don't they use some of the money from cameras to employ more coppers to patrol the roads? I believe this would be a far better solution than the current revenue stream....
People slow down and behave when they see a copper. Fact!
People just get agro when they see a speed camera.....