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New Wheels and LP Gas for 62 Series Cruiser

Submitted: Monday, Aug 01, 2005 at 22:01

62Cruza

Hi All,

I've got a 62 Series Petrol Cruiser, and am looking at putting it onto LPG cause the old girl is getting a little pricey to run on petrol. Any advice or things I should look out for??? I am currently looking at an IMPCO system with dual tanks fitted up under where the factory spare sits.

I am also looking at a new set of boots for the truck, can anyone tell me if a set of R16/70/285's BFG Muddies will fit ok under there (she's got standard suspension, no lift), or would I be better off going for a set of 15" wheels??

Thanks All.
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AnswerID: 123248   Submitted: Monday, Aug 01, 2005 at 22:11

muzzgit (WA) replied:

If you go gas, run a valve-lube kit. Others on here say you don't need it, but my mechanic who is a gas installer advises it. Cheap insurance against burning valves which the 2F and 3F is known to do.

As for the tyres, it depends on your rim size. If you have 15 inch then look at the BFG 33 x 10.5 x R15.
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AnswerID: 123359   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 15:08

Tuff60 replied:

Cruza
Just before you go to LPG, do some research on excise tax(don't think a final amount has been decided) which starts(from memory) Jan 2007. That does not give you long to reap the savings. Also remember that a litre of gas only takes you half as far as a litre of petrol, only slightly better in a designated LPG motor. On tyres, my two cents is, choose a common size, makes finding one easier if you in the middle of nowhere. The common one these days being 16's.
Hope this helps.
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FollowupID: 378445   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 19:03

62Cruza posted:

Hi Mate,

Thanks for the reply, good point I didn't even think about the excise tax.. But that leads to another question, what sort of fuel economy do you think I should be getting out of the 60? and would I be better off doing things to the motor to make it chew less juice, ie carbie, head work etc..

It is a 1990 model FJ62, 4.0lt petrol, Manual, standard motor.. I am only getting about 375km out of a full tank (approx 19L/100km) . I originally thought that this was not normal, but everyone I speak to tells me the 60's are renowned for their heavy fuel usage.

Cheers
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FollowupID: 378510   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 03:08

Tuff60 posted:

Cruza,
Sorry, can't say I have any good news on getting 2F and 3F motors to use any less. There is a couple of options but they're going to take a long time to pay off in fuel savings, ie 12HT or injected V8 conversion.
On my last trip, the worst economy my GM 5.0 EFI V8 powered HJ61 got was 15.5/100km, and as good as 9.9/100km on hwy sections. Really upset one of the guys with his 94 80 series who was averaging 18-19/00km. Motor is stock except for higher compression and a different cam. Conversion was not done for economy, was less than half the price of a replacement 12HT. Have you had a leak down or compression test to see what the motor is actually like?
Sorry can't be more helpfull.
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FollowupID: 378675   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 20:48

62Cruza posted:

It's funny you mention an EFI V8 conversion, as I have a Holden 304 EFI V8 sitting around, but was a little sketchy on doing the conversion, as I am not mechanically good enought to do the conversion myself or know how to pick a dodgy one.

I am going to start a new thread about this cause if I go on we will get too off topic for this one. But if you would be able to give me a rough idea of what a change over would cost and what's involved that would be great.
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AnswerID: 123477   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 23:01

muzzgit (WA) replied:

When I bought my first forby, an FJ45 dual cab ute, I got quite a shock with the poor fuel economy. I spoke to several people about this, and they all said extractors and a better exhaust may help but everything else they tried did not stop these motors sucking the juice.

Well, I fitted the extractors and exhaust which made very little difference to fuel use, however, performance was slightly better.

About ten years and a few cars later, I bought an FJ62 on gas, and although the 3F was supposedly a better engine, fuel use was just as bad, and worse on gas.

I was dissapointed with the fuel economy on gas. It had a distinct lack of power on gas and never idled properly on gas, despite constantly going back to the workshop for tuning, then to a carby shop for tuning, then to toyota for tuning.

My whole experience with that setup was not a happy one. Unfortunately I wasted 4 years and lottsa dollars trying to get what I thought was a schmick cruiser to be spot on. I now drive a diesel and will never have to worry about carbies, distributors, backfiring etc;

Of course, if your 1999 model is fuel injected, then your car will be much better suited to gas and it could be a better result.

Cheers,

Muzz
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AnswerID: 123502   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 08:27

Steve replied:

mate, don't think twice. I'm filling my 100 series up for $33 for 90L. The new tax was originally scheduled for 08, and has been put back to 2010 @ 2.5% per year for four years, eventually whacking on 10%. That makes the current 40c per L 44c per L. Can you live with that? The biggest prob has been finding a home for the spare on mine, 'cos I can't get the car in the garage if I put a RWC on the back.
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