Member - Blue (VIC) replied:

Pitboss,
got it on my '96 Falcon wagon, no rust... Never had it on my '85 Daihatsu Rocky(which is still floating around my area), regular washes with clean water especially after beach work, it still appears to have no rust...

In answer to your question, I can't answer your question...

Member - Chris M (QLD) replied:

ERPS and Counteract do. Those dodgy ones in the Trading Post don't. Have had 3 on 3 different types of vehicles with lots of beach work. Had no probs with rust.

Don't pay $600 plus fitted. I think I pay around 300 and fit myself.

Cheers.

Member - Phil G (SA) replied:

Impossible to know.
Vehicles are much better rustproofed now than they were in the past,
We have a 60series in the family with no rust after 24 years.

IMO they are a solution waiting for a problem, hence are not worth having.

Cheers
phil

kiss'n'dirt replied:

I have ERPS on my GU.

i wouldn't touch counteract. I had alot of doubts before hand. My last 4b, a pajero was sprayed. It had 14 fraser island trips under its belt. No rust.

The GU is still going hard with no rust since doing a few beach work as well.

The key is Washing down well after beach work.

I paid just around $700 fitted in brisbane for my erps. BUT. I had 10 pads put on. I spoke to alot of people and seen their trucks.
My GU has 2 pads on the chassis in diagonal corners. 6 on the body ( 2 in front on each side, 2 in the middle and 2 in the back), 1 on the rear door and 1 on the steel bullbar.

With electronic, just remember it won't pass through rubber. Hence my pad on my bullbar.

It also needs paint. The negative ion travels through paint.

What i have found with ERPS is my paint does stay shiny alot longer between washes. Does not require polish as often as my poor truck is always under the sun.

Other people i found working in shops also have 10 pads on their own large trucks. Cruisers, patrols etc.

My bro has 9 on his Kluger.

He did a dodgy wash after fraser. Been 8 months. Not a speck of rust and paint still new.

Member - Jiarna (NT) replied:

A friend put Counteract on his newly-resprayed 60-series, and we've never seen rust take hold so fast!! It only stopped when he ripped the system out. A group of us were watching with interest as we were thinking of each buying a kit. Now we know it's just another Queensland rip-off like Hiclone. Damn!

Cheers
John

Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) replied:

I assume your name gives away your proffesion. If so you would have noticed that those with most to gain (mining co) from effective rust management do not use electronic rust proofing, probably says it all

Member - Collyn R (WA) replied:

This one needs a balanced response.

In conjunction with the CMCA (Campervan and Motorhome Club of Australia) I fitted a test unit (from Endrust) on our OKA in 1998. Also added were identical metal test strips - of which two were isolated from the device.

The OKA has subsequently travelled extensively around and across Australia and, since 2001, has been located in the open only a few hundred metres from the Indian Ocean.

After seven years, the unprotected test strips are now very badly pitted and corroded. The test strips have a light ferric coating that is readily wiped off to expose clean metal. The slight patches of rusting on a few minor parts of the OKA's body do not appear to have spread since the device was fitted. It's not possible to attribute this to the device, but it seems probable there is some causal relationship.

By and lare, the device appears to do what it's vendor claimed. That is 'to delay the onset of rusting by a factor of four to five.'

It does not prevent rust, but does appear to slow it down.

My own impression (and this is much what Enrust claimed) is that conventional methods are more effective if they can be used. But there are some aplications where it cannot - such as in non-accesible parts of older vehicles, or where adequate protection has not been originally provided and cannot later be added.

That it may not be used in mining applications does not necessarily mean it is not effective in some others.

My own feeling is that there is no big difference between rival offerings as such, but that the effectivness does depend substantially on correct fitting of the capacitive coupling plates - and here some are more accomodating than others.

Finally, beware of any claim that these devices PREVENT rust. They don't -but based on my limited but lengthy test, the device tested certainly appears to retard it. If anyone wishes to know more, a full (preliminary) report to the CMCA can be found by clicking on 'Articles'- and then 'Controlling Tin Worms' on my own web site.
Collyn Rivers

snow replied:

I have a 20 odd year old Toyota which has seen countless beach work, has no form of rust proofing or electronic stuff and has bugger all rust, considering the age and the life the vehicle has had.