Jimbo posted:

Fine advice.

It won't be used whilst we're asleep.

Like you, I lived in that godforsaken dung hole called QLD for 8 years. It was all aircon and fans.

Hot today, frigging hot tomorrow.

In Townsville we could only camp for four months of the year. Other than that you would trade your tent for a sauna.

I couldn't wait to get back to civilization.

bgreeni posted:

After 3 years in the 'civilisation' of London, I look back on 25 years of Townsville's climate with a great deal of kindness

Jimbo posted:

Great set up Baz.

Alloy c/t posted:

Baz ,love the heater , don,t know why you need one though when you have such a fine dog to keep you warm on them cold nights ,,, still stress need bulk ventilation using gas from bottle or from dog ..LoL.

Willem posted:

Sorry Jimbo, hijacking this post......

Hey Baz, I don't seem to have your email addy. Was wondering if Vanessa has finished with my balaklava. Could have used it a couple of times recently.

Hope things are well, there in the Big Smoke.

Cheers

Redback posted:

Sorry Willem i just spoke to her and she said "oh no i forgot" so we'll send it monday.
Email is
bmfitz at optusnet dot com dot au

Sorry mate
Baz.

Willem posted:

No worries, Baz

Cheers

Jimbo posted:

Thanks for that.

I was of the understanding that burning of Propane/Butane did not produce CO. The only danger I was aware of, was the burning of any flame consumes oxygen and hence the need for adequate ventilation.

I note it is a US site and wonder when they refer to gas, do they mean gasoline? I need to do further research.

Cheers,

Jim.

navaraman posted:

Jim,

As a gas fitter I can assure you that LPG can produce CO. This will only occur if there is insufficient ventilation available, or appliance is in need od service. Under normal combustion it will produce CO2 and H20. Personally I don't know how these things are legal, all gas appliances need minimum ventilation, distance from combustible materials and need to be secure so as not to fall over. How any of these criteria can be gauranteed for a portable appliance in a tent/camper/caravan is beyond me.

If there is a rating on the heater inMJ/h I can tell you how much ventilaition is required.

navaraman posted:

Above posted by Patrolman Pat.

Membership lapsed and unable to change username

navaraman posted:

Heater should be 5.3 MJ/h. Ventilation requirements should be minimum 15cms2 at high and low level.
It is illegal to install a flueless appliance in a bedroom according to the AGA gas regs ( there is probably a reason these things get around that but I'm buggered if I can work out why.) There is also a clause restricting the type of heater allowed in a caravan, these don't meet that standard

Like I said above how these things can be sold is beyond me.

Jimbo posted:

Thanks for your help Pat.

Yes, it is 5.3 MJ/h. The side curtains on the camper are up high and do not seal completely. The flap on the end of the fold out tent bit is down low and it also does not seal fully.

I'm thinking I'll easily get 15 square cms at each of these. That is only a gap the size of packet of smokes. To be safe I'll unzip them a bit.

I'm assuming these figures you have provided are for continuous use? Are you saying it can be safely run all night with that ventilation? I don't plan to run it all night whilst we are in there. Just somewhere to go to get dressed after a shower and warm up the camper for an hour before we go to bed.

Thanks Again,

Jim.

navaraman posted:

I wouldn't run one whilst sleeping or with the camper unattended purely from a fire risk point of view. If ventilation is adequate, and in a camper that shouldn't be a problem at all, then the flue gases shouldn't be a problem. I'm overly cautious about these things and tbh you would have to be very unlucky to encounter problems.
We bought an electric fan heater for camping (only useful on powered sites though) and it does make a huge difference when you keep warm.
Just apply commonsense Jim.

Jimbo posted:

Thanks Pat,

Help appreciated.

Jimbo posted:

Thanks Ken.