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Early Explorers - Any good books worth a read?

Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 21:51

ShnogDog

Just wondering if anyone out there can reccomend any particular books about the early explorers. Am thinking about a shortish trip out to the Dig Tree mid though next year and would like to read up on Burke & Wills as well as other explorers before we go. Just from driving some of the vast distances these incredible people covered on foot/horse/camel, with little idea what awaited them, and to push on as far as they did is truly inspiring. I would like to learn more about their stories and would really appreciate any recommended reads.

Cheers.
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AnswerID: 137685   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 22:00

Member - Phil G (SA) replied:

"Crossing the dead heart" Cecil Madigan. Can get it at most libraries and bookstores. It all comes to life if you do the trip.
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FollowupID: 391342   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 22:03

ShnogDog posted:

I take it written by the man himself? If so even better... Many thanks, have noted your suggestion.
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FollowupID: 391349   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 22:47

The Explorer posted:

Does Madigan rate as an "early" explorer....just curious..whats the cut off date?
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FollowupID: 391486   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 22:59

Member - Phil G (SA) posted:

ShnogDog,

Yep, written by Madigan - You can usually pick up a copy of the original hardback(1946) at second hand bookshops. Reprinted recently though.

The Explorer,
Yeah, good point - he crossed the northern Simpson in 1939, which was only 66 years ago. I'd reckon cutoff is 1940 :-)) The book is a good read though.

Cheers
Phil
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AnswerID: 137690   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 22:15

The Explorer replied:

Hello try post 19910 for some interesting leads
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AnswerID: 137691   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 22:17

Footloose replied:

Do a search on Google for Australian Explorers. You'll find more info, including published works for free, than you could ever read.
To be honest, you'd have to pick an area of interest and chase that up. "Australian Explorers" is just too humungous.
For example, if doing the CSR I can think of at least 6 major expeditions that dont even scratch the surface of the history of that area.
I think the story that captures my imagination is poor old Gibson riding off into the dunes, never to be seen again.
And when you're sick of reading all the factual accounts, you can read about Harold Lassiter :))
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FollowupID: 391346   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 22:25

The Explorer posted:

"Lassiter"...should be Lasseter
This sounds like a good read?

Book on Lasseter

Cheers
Greg

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AnswerID: 137696   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 22:51

The Explorer replied:

PS type in a few explorers names here and you can get entire journals
gutenberg ebooks

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Greg
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AnswerID: 137697   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 22:53

The Explorer replied:

Also Hesperian Press reprint few books

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AnswerID: 137698   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 22:53

The Explorer replied:

As do Friends of the State Library of South Australia
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FollowupID: 391355   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 23:45

ShnogDog posted:

Greg, Many thanks, I'll look into some of these. Seems enough to more than get me started. Cheers.
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AnswerID: 137700   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 23:21

Member -Dodger replied:

Try,
Explorers of Australia
by Geoggrey Badger
Published by Kangaroo Press
Printed by Griffin Press, Adelaide.

This is a facinating book that cover many explorers including Burke and Wills.

Best part is the book is not that exy.
And may be available through this site.
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FollowupID: 391354   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 23:44

ShnogDog posted:

Thanks Dodger,

for a novice like myself, it may be a good starting point. Cheers.
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FollowupID: 391356   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 03, 2005 at 23:54

Member -Dodger posted:

That should be Geoffrey Badger.

I have been able to travel the full Burke and Wills trip using this book also Charles Sturt trips.
Well worth the read if your an Ausie history buff.
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AnswerID: 137714   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 06:23

Bundy replied:

For Central Australia, 'Australia Twice Traversed' which is a compilation of 4 of Giles' diaries/logs. A great read if exploring this area ( eg Finke River/Chambers Pillar, Ayers Rock, Kings Canyon and West). Helps you to see how easy we get it these days with a/c cabs and plenty of water.

Cheers

Bundy
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AnswerID: 137729   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 08:42

atoyot replied:

I can recommend a book written on early Australian explorers by an explorer, so it's from a perspective of an experienced explorer, not just someone who's done research.

Try this: Favenc for starters, and there is a paperback

(maybe Explorers of Australia by Ernest Favenc
Whitcombe & Tombs Ltd, 1908)

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AnswerID: 137736   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 09:30

Rick (S.A.) replied:

The Eplorer has given you many good leads.

Here's a lsit that is by no means comprehensive. It will, however, get you a decent perspective on that Innamincka region:

- The Dig Tree by Sarah Murgatroyd
- Big John by Kim Lockwood
- Kidman: The Forgotten King by Jill Bowen
- Drought or Deluge by HM Tolcher. The most authoritative history of Innamincka and surrounding properties. This book is carefully researched and deals with everything from Aborigines to Aeroplanes, floods to flying doctors and dingoes to drovers. The decline of the township in the 50’s and its rise again in the 80’s was influenced by cattle prices, natural gas and tourism. The tragedy of Burke and Wills and the intrigue of Harry Redford is all included in this great book. Republished by the author. 267 p.

I also recommend, for general interest:

- John McDoaull Stuart by Mona Stuart Webster
- The Explorers by Tim Flannery
- Explorers of Australia bt Ernesrt Favenc
- Tarnished Heroes by the Bush Tucker Man, Les Hiddens
- Two Expeditions into Southern Australia. Charles Sturt. ISBN 1.1876247-09-6 This book continues the Les Hiddens series of explorers journals. A newly typeset edition of Sturts most important work; the journals of the expeditions into the interior of New South Wales in 1829 –1831. A large paperback edition, 360 pages with four full colour plates and two maps.
- To the Inland Sea by Edward Stokes
- Across the Centre by Edward Stokes
- The Desert Coast by Edward Stokes
- Ill starred Captains by Anthony Brown
- Australia Twice Traversed - Ernest Giles' own narrative of his explorations .

Have fun - lots of hours entertainment here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers

Rick (S.A.)
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FollowupID: 391484   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 22:52

Member - Phil G (SA) posted:

Great post Rick,

I've got a lot more reading ahead of me :-))

Cheers
Phil
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AnswerID: 137737   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 09:37

Member - Ross P (NSW) replied:

There is a book called the Dig Tree (I think) . Can't remember the author. It's an historically correct novel and very good, easy read. Can't ecommend it highly enough if your are interestd in Robert O'Hara Burke and his expedition from Melbourne. If you are contemplating going to Innamincka don't leave home without this book.

If you prefer videos there was a 10 edpisode series by Bill Peach which covered a variety of the early explorers. I think it was entitled Bill Peaches Australia. Available from ABC shops but hellish expensive. If you have contacts to a school you might be able to get copies at a reasonable cost. That's what I did although the quality is not great.

Also there is an excellent display at the Stockmans' Hall of Fame at Longreach Qld. I coud have spent days at that place just taking int he all the info about the early pioneers.
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AnswerID: 137757   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 11:07

geocacher (djcache) replied:

If anyone is doing the Canning, Eileen Smith's book on Trotman is definately worth a read. I found an old copy in the library but when in Alice Springs I found it new in paperback.

An interesting footnote related to the Burke and Wills trip is that you could start at Swan Hill at the now famous Moreton Bay fig that was planted to commemerate the start of their trip.

I never knew it was there until Tuesday when I was wandering around Swan Hill and found the Burke & Wills Tree in the back of the main street.

It is huge. Apparently the biggest specimen of that type of tree in Australia. About a 90-100ft cannopy and about 12ft across the trunk.

Maybe now you can do a tree to tree trip.

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AnswerID: 137765   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 11:40

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AnswerID: 137775   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 13:01

Utemad replied:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563924420/103-7010166-6793403?v=glance

Good book on early explorers
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AnswerID: 137784   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 14:45

Member - DickyBeach replied:

While not an "explorer" per se, Ion Idriess wrote many, many interesting stories about his travels and life, mostly in the northern part of Australia. Eg Lasseter's Last Ride, Flynn of the Inland, Man Tracks, One Wet Season, Nemarluk, and especially Men of the Jungle (dealing with his life in the Daintree, Roaring Meg Falls and hinterland, and which would be of interest to anyone who's done, or plans to do, the FNQ trip to Cape York), to name just a few of his ~40 books.

Also not an explorer but definitely a good read about life in the Top End is Tom Cole's "Hell West & Crooked".

You'd need the Library for Idriess but Cole's book is still in the bookshops. Also his 2nd book about post-war life in PNG "Last Paradise".
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FollowupID: 391437   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 17:36

Rick (S.A.) posted:

No, Idriess is certainly not an explorer. But he sure travelled heaps.

Interesting and fun, worth reading, quite romanticised and definitely NOT accurate may be a reasonable description of Idriess' novels.

Comparing Jill Bowen's book & Idriesss' about Sir Sydney Kidman illustrates this point.

So, for the sake of getting a slightly clearer perspective on the regions enquired about in the original post, it may pay to read widely. The Westprint map series are another useful reference.

Cheers

Rick (S.A.)

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AnswerID: 137827   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 17:16

Steve replied:

Though I've read and enjoyed many accounts of the early explorers, I enjoy stuff like Up the Track by Douglas Lockwood and Ayers Rock and Beyond by Bill Harney the (1st) legendary ranger from that area and of course Len Beadell has done a series of (books) accounts of his work and experiences in the outback. Mostly 50's and 60's era (earlier for Harney) but relevant to us as they did drive Landrovers around as opposed to the early explorers. Fascinating how these guys learned from the Aborigines. I'm reading Beadell's Gunbarrel Highway now. Excellent.
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AnswerID: 137829   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 17:33

Tessysdad replied:

Tim Bowden has produced a couple of books worth looking at. He is a present day traveller and historian who likes to pick up on the explorers of this great land, following their journeys, even trying to camp in the same places they camped. A good lighthearted read and full of interest. "Penelope Goes West" (crosing the Nullabor), "Penelope Bungles to Broome" (The Kimberley), and "The Devil in Tim" (Tasmania).
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AnswerID: 137841   Submitted: Friday, Nov 04, 2005 at 18:56

Member- Rox (WA) replied:

ShnogDog, If your interested in Burk & wills Check out the state libery of Victoria website (slv) I think. I did a search on B&W lots cof info there. great trip out there, Population 11 on last count.
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FollowupID: 391566   Submitted: Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 15:12

Member - Duncs posted:

There is also a website that is listing the journals of Matthew FLinders. Can't remember where it is but if you do a Google you should find it.
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AnswerID: 137993   Submitted: Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 00:21

Member - Melissa replied:

ShnogDog,

Looks of good books recommended so far, particulary by Rick (SA) who I know share my own avid interest in Aust. pioneers and explorers. I was going to recommend it any way but especially since your heading out to the Dig Tree soon, you MUST read "The Dig Tree - The Story of Burke & Wills" by Sarah Murgatroyd. Be warned though, you might have trouble putting it down.

You could also try:
"Crossing the Dead Heart" by Cecil Madigan
"Explorations by John McDouall Stuart ( a bit of a slog but interesting)

The following are a bit of a mix of early and modern day explorations but good yarns:
"Dune is a four-letter word" by Griselda Sprigg (excellent)
"Mailman of the Birdsville Track" by Kristin Weidenbach
"Tanami" by Kieran Kelly
"Hard Country Hard Men - In the Footsteps of Gregory" by Kieran Kelly
"The Singing Line" by Alice Thomson (tells the story of Todd and the construction of the telegraph line across Aust.)

Depends on your definition of explorers but I tend to think of our early pioneers and prospectors as explorers since they opened up so much of the country:
"Beyond the Big Run" by Charlie Schultz & Lewis
"Fifteen Hundred down the Murranji" by Bob Lunney
"Hell West and Crooked" by Tom Cole
"Mates & Gold" by NK Sligo
"S'pose I Die - the Evelyn Maunsell Story" by Hector Holthouse
"River of Gold" by Hector Holthouse (a gripping yarn about the wild days of the Palmer River Gold Rush and one of my all-time favourites).

Hesperian Press has an endless supply of books of this kind which can be ordered on-line.

Happy reading!

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AnswerID: 137994   Submitted: Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 00:21

Member - Melissa replied:

ShnogDog,

Lots of good books recommended so far, particulary by Rick (SA) who I know share my own avid interest in Aust. pioneers and explorers. I was going to recommend it any way but especially since your heading out to the Dig Tree soon, you MUST read "The Dig Tree - The Story of Burke & Wills" by Sarah Murgatroyd. Be warned though, you might have trouble putting it down.

You could also try:
"Crossing the Dead Heart" by Cecil Madigan
"Explorations by John McDouall Stuart ( a bit of a slog but interesting)

The following are a bit of a mix of early and modern day explorations but good yarns:
"Dune is a four-letter word" by Griselda Sprigg (excellent)
"Mailman of the Birdsville Track" by Kristin Weidenbach
"Tanami" by Kieran Kelly
"Hard Country Hard Men - In the Footsteps of Gregory" by Kieran Kelly
"The Singing Line" by Alice Thomson (tells the story of Todd and the construction of the telegraph line across Aust.)

Depends on your definition of explorers but I tend to think of our early pioneers and prospectors as explorers since they opened up so much of the country:
"Beyond the Big Run" by Charlie Schultz & Lewis
"Fifteen Hundred down the Murranji" by Bob Lunney
"Hell West and Crooked" by Tom Cole
"Mates & Gold" by NK Sligo
"S'pose I Die - the Evelyn Maunsell Story" by Hector Holthouse
"River of Gold" by Hector Holthouse (a gripping yarn about the wild days of the Palmer River Gold Rush and one of my all-time favourites).

Hesperian Press has an endless supply of books of this kind which can be ordered on-line.

Happy reading!

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