Wayne (NSW) posted:

Blue,

If I come across bikes I will try and let them know how many vehicles are behind me by holding up so many fingers. They will do the same.( I hate it when there are only two vehicles behind me) I will then get on the UHF and tell the convey to move over and let the bikes pass. If they come up from behind I tell the convey to indicate to what side of the track they will move to when safe and let the bikes pass.

Wayne

Member - Blue (VIC) posted:

Yeah Wayne, the hand signals are important... We'll very rarely pass going uphill, knobbies just throw up way too many rocks and no-one needs a window or lights broken. Guess it comes down to a mix of conditions and coutesey(sp?, sleep dep)

arthurking83 posted:

Quote:
"...but the number of times you come across someone like that they are almost invariably driving a disco or Rangie...."

I resemble that remark! :))))

I've only ever driven a RR off road, and I dare not get stuck in my Rodeo (:o

I don't normally care what the etiquette is , I usually always give way, unless I'm going to fall off the earth.

I have a vague recollection of the track, between Dargo/Jamieson and Walhalla having a few "long stretches" of single lane track.
This is some 15 years ago, and I haven't been for at least 10-12 years.
But I invariably always used to give way to the 'old fella' coming the other way.........
It was always a matter of who remebered how far the last wide spot was!!

Member - Blue (VIC) posted:

Or my ship dit boss...

Truckster (Vic) posted:

Or blues dip bleep boss...

or my ex-boss' wife, who actually said she would never get out of the way in her disco.. stupid old slag

disco driver posted:

Hi guys, Youre both wrong.
I'm a retired grumpy old fart who's been driving 4wd's for more that 40 years, both for work and as a private vehicle.
All my working life has been in the bush and I am definitely NOT a Lawyer or Dentist.

Member - Blue (VIC) posted:

Hey Truckster... *wispers* I think it's my bosses dad...

Member - Phil G (SA) posted:

Hey Truckie,

Never seen a Lawyer who goes 4wding. Wierd Eh?

Plenty of doctors, engineers, etc etc

Cheers
phil

ImEasy posted:

Geeez, it's Kindergarten this morning.

Redback posted:

Neither am i, but i must agree as to the most unhospitable drivers i meet in the bush have been Disco drivers, they don't wave, they don't move over and even when they pull up beside you they ignor you, it really gets up my nose, i get friendlier waves from the jap drivers than Landy drivers.

We have a little thing we do now when a Disco approaches i say wave at the disco, and we all get out the windows and wave and yell franticly, we certainly get some strange looks ;-))))

OK am awaiting flack from Disco owners

Baz.

Feral posted:

Baz...you haven't come across me then.

The wife crouches in the seat when another Disco comes towards us. I give them the big flick of the wrist and the question must be "Who the hell is that?"

Although, I am having trouble convincing the wife & kids to hang outside the vehicle to wave.

Any tips?

Cheers,
Lyndon.
Immaculate Discovery Td5.

Truckster (Vic) posted:

LOL blue!

Willem posted:

Hey Redback

You have a Disco as well,eh?

Or did you flog it? .....LOL

Redback posted:

Hey Willem, yep still got her, but get peived at the snobery of other Disco and Range Rover owners, although most of them ARE town cars and very rarely see a dirt road.

Which could explain their bad habits when off road.

Baz.

Member - Oldplodder (QLD) posted:

Know the problem. Have a few bulls eye on the windscreen.
OK tourists don't know better, and hopefully they learn by example, but when it is locals it annoys me.
Last one was a telstra patrol between Windorah and Birdsville.
He was still going 100 in the gibber country when I had slowed down to 60k and pulled over.

gramps posted:

"Last one was a telstra patrol"

Company car - say no more :))))

Redback posted:

QUOTE;
The lack of experience of some of these people in the conditions are all too evident in their actions and attitudes.
END QUOTE;

Mate ain't that the bloody truth.

Baz.

richopesto posted:

I thought enough had been said about bad attitudes here, but I thought it worth one more snide comment...

QUOTE;
The lack of experience of some of these people in the conditions are all too evident in their actions and attitudes.
END QUOTE; ........not quite right.

quote "The attitude and actions of these people are evident." end quote.

Irrespective of driving experience I'll think you'll find elitist w@nkers behave pretty appallingly anywhere they drive. The fact they are on a potentially dangerous track is irrelevant to them. People breathing the rare air 'up there' think a mobile phone, RACV/NRMA membership and a an in-car GPS is all the off road experience you need.
Classism and snobbery is alive and well under the Howard government.

Member - MrBitchi (QLD) posted:

Richopesto,
Just what the hell does the government of the day have to do with this discussion???

Leroy posted:

"This is VAFWDC policy as well and is based on it being easier for the vehicle going downhill to stop and get started again in contrast to the vehicle coming uphill stoppping and having difficulty starting again on the hill"

When our 4 vehicle convoy was going up Billy Goats Bluff the other day a Tag-along operator told us to stop and virtually demanded that we stop and give way and we were on the way up. He just kept yelling into the radio for his group to keep coming even though the group realised we were coming up!! He had a time frame in which to get the trip done and was just pushing his way through with not respect for others.....wish I could remember the name of the company...

WRT to monument track, that's where I saw a GQ on it's roof a couple of years ago.

Leroy

richopesto posted:

MrBitchi,

If you understood how our leaders, media and other peers set and guide the attitudes of society, then this note may have more pertinence for you. I dont have 4 hours here to discuss sociology and psychology of the masses. (Not that Im any sort of expert anyway)

Besides, I like to have a go at Lil King Johnny whenever I can.

PS I bet $10 you vote lib/nats. ;-)

Redback posted:

I'm with you John, correcting grammar and rambling on about the government seems a bit odd, don't think it has anything to do with some 4wdrivers attitude and driving skills in the bush.

richopesto posted:

Hey Redback,
Im not normally fussed by others stupidity, but it seems I have placed a comment of real thought here (as left field as it may seem)in attempt to provoke some conversation slightly beyond "what suspension should I put in my Prado" unfortunately, either rednecks who dont understand it make inane judegements, or worse........
1. No grammatical corrections were made here. Read it again. If you still dont get it, don't bother.
2. I already explained in the post why it DOES have a hell of a lot to do with attitudes of people in the bush, in the city, in their cars and in general. But with obviously limited mental faculties, as clearly demonstrated by your response, it doesnt matter what I say, your narrow mindedness and inability to comprehend text will make it awfully hard to explain much beytond tying shoelaces.
You probably only responded to get a bit of flame going. so there you go, u got some. ;-)

I'll save my more challenging posts where they might raise some intellect, not stubbie to mouth.

cheers
richopesto
"Dont use force, use a bigger hammer"

Redback posted:

Well there ya go, i won't bother as you have lowered yourself to abusing me and i'd say John as well, so this is over, you showed your true colours.

Baz.

Steve posted:

yeah, but for the charlies on here that have turned this into another Disco berating session, you were probably just having a good day whilst the Tojo had an emergency on his hands.

greydemon posted:

Oh yes, and I had channel 13 open on the uhf and would happily have pulled over for someone in a hurry.

Incidentally I am not in any way having a go at Toyota drivers, in my experience idiots are idiots no matter what they drive, and I'll wave to anyone - except that I do get a bit fed up of turning the wave into a headscratch when they don't respond!

Member - Beatit (QLD) posted:

G'day Greydemon,

Having done that road myself last August I can vouch that at 80K you were unlikely to be holding up traffic (probably only a couple of spots where we would have exceeded that speed). We found 80K about right for the corrugations on that road. Hope you enjoyed your time at Kalumburu - we did.

But as another thought when we travel in a convoy (wasn't us as we don't have a Toyo in our group and you would have been travelling way too fast) we would give road reports allowing vehicle to overtake where they can't get a view of the road.

Kind regards