Kipor KGE 2000ti vs Honda EU20i

Submitted: Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 21:32

Darren W

G'day,

thought I'd let everybody know if they have been considering a Kipor 2000ti over the Honda EU20i as a generator for their travels its not quite the same.

Over a few beers during the Christmas break I was talking to my uncle about these generators and how on paper the specs are almost a photocopy. A friend of mine has just bought the Kipor 2000ti and took it around to my uncle who has the Honda EU20i. The big test was will it run the Coleman Airconditionder (roof mount model). Well in summary No. It rev'd a bit , and the overload light comes on , the Honda runs it ok.

The Kipor is less than half the price and in reality the start up current required by the airconditioner is probably higher than the "written" specification so it can be forgiven.

Kipor make a slightly larger model the 3000ti - anybody had experience with these ones ?

Thanks

Darren
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AnswerID: 149042   Submitted: Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 21:55

russ36 replied:

i didnt do much research, zip really, and i wasnt happy about the 2 g i spent but i thought bugger it if i just buy the best then i'lll never have to worry when in the middle of no-where in the middle of summer. the honda eu20i is quiet, and starts first pull...we can all remember skimping in the past to save a dollar and then later seriously regretting it
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FollowupID: 402384   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 21:12

symes posted:

russ what werent you happy about the dolars spent or the eu20 as you said you get what you pay for and i bet that eu20 is the best thing you ever bought
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AnswerID: 149044   Submitted: Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 22:05

Flash replied:

Q. was the Kipor "run in".

Mates 1Kva Yamaha wouldn't even look at running my Fujitsu split (2Kw cooling) when it was new. However a year down the track and probably another 50-70 hours on the Yamaha- now no drama at all starting the aircon with the Yamaha 1Kva. (When run in it has better compression and is not tight, so more power out.)

I've just picked up a 2Kva Kipor and will let you know how it goes a bit futher down the track, however very happy so far....
Cheers
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FollowupID: 402382   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 21:10

symes posted:

hi how can a 1 kva gen start a 2kva air con without damaging your yamaha its no possible it will die soon and there will be no warranty
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FollowupID: 402386   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 21:32

russ36 posted:

symes, that was just me having a winge about getting my wallet out of my pocket,the expense is soon forgotten, and the pleasure of use/ownership of a great product takes over.. regarding the best thing you ever bought, the honda genny, and the air con cool room canopy i'm about to make, my hilux, my honda quadbike, my dr650 suzuki road trail, my new tinny and outboard,dmm iceaxe and crampons, my alasakan malamute/irishwolfhound cross, theres just so many things that are a joy to own.. where would us lot be without our toys!
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FollowupID: 406420   Submitted: Friday, Feb 03, 2006 at 10:45

Flash posted:

Symes...
I'll try to put this politely as I don't want to offend....
Air conditioner capacity is given as cooling watts, ie: a 2Kilowatt cooling A/C gives 2Kw cooling NOT 2Kw consumption. Actual consumption when running is about 550 watts, however if it's not an inverter A/C then it needs more than that (a lot more) to start the compressor.
May I politely suggest that if you have no idea what you are talking about it may be better to say nothing, no offense intended.
Cheers
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AnswerID: 149057   Submitted: Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 23:26

Motherhen replied:

After our research last year we purchased the Honda - tried and tested as good for the air con (the only reason we bought it), lightweight and quiet. Worth every one of those 2g $s on a really hot afternoon in a cool cool caravan.
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FollowupID: 402280   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 12:27

StephenF10 posted:

Motherhen,

What's the fuel consumption like when running the a/c? We have been told it uses a litre an hour when running flat out.

Stephen.
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FollowupID: 402372   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 20:44

symes posted:

guys i work for a dealer that sells HONDA EU20I and i would have to say they are the best there is i use one myself.
They are an inverter model so that means they will kick up to start the aircon for a short period until it settles
If anyone has any enquires about the units call me ill look after members here

simon edwards
07 32816288 office
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FollowupID: 402380   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 21:00

Motherhen posted:

Yes, Stephen, it does chew through around 1 litre per hour. Also it only has a small fuel tank (around 3 litre i think), so it won't keep running all night without a few top ups. The air con does get the caravan very cold in the three hours (we usually turn it off before that).
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AnswerID: 149132   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 13:26

TerraFirma replied:

I have the Kipor 3000ti and it is a very nice unit, I bought it over the 2000ti because I needed to run an electric hot water service on my boat which needs 2200watts. I bought mine new, put fuel and oil in and it started 2nd pull, and now starts 1st pull every time. It is very quiet and I believe the engine is basicaly a Honda anyhow. I paid $1299 for my Kipor 3000ti from Novasmic on Ebay, I also have the little 1000ti for smaller apps.
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AnswerID: 149149   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 14:55

Tony Shaw replied:

Hey Guys,

Be aware that Kipor's have at least 3 different importers into the country and each importer holds the warranty for it.

So if you purchase a Kipor from Importer #1 it must go back to them or their service agent if anything does go wrong with it.

Some importers are small and may only have the one place to take it to while others are larger more experienced and have service agents all round aus.

So just make sure you know who your buying it from before you purchase........

Cheers, ToNy!

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FollowupID: 402374   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 20:47

symes posted:

be aware kipor importers dont carry parts
honda has 200 dealers aus wide but u wont need em
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FollowupID: 402390   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 21:38

Leroy posted:

that's enough free plugs for today....

Leroy
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AnswerID: 149184   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 17:48

DesC replied:

i thought that Kipor was only 1700 watts but they call it a 2 something?
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AnswerID: 149222   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 21:06

roofscooter2 replied:

darren got the 3000i kipor whilst i have not run it to any great lenght (yet to get away) started it up plugged it itno the winniebago turned on air conditioner turned on fridge turned on tv forgot about microwave but it did not even adjust revs, ran it about 2 hours no probs they are quoted 2700kws, i think regards bob.
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