barrett 950 hf --what's the price?

Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:37

skippie

thinking this is the unit i need for my trip to the desert etc.
but the price seems to cheap,
what am i missing,
here's the details
NO KIDDING this radio has been sitting on the shelf 99.9% most of its life! The Barret 950 tranciever is a sophisticated yet easy to operate, 450 channel HF SSB tranciever with a frequency range of 1.6 to 30 MHz. Designed to operate in the most arduous environments, as encountered in off road vehicles, vessels and aircraft, the Barret 950 will provide many years of efficient and trouble free service. The Barret 950 supports features such as selective calling (selcall), direct dial telephone connection to base stations fitted with telephone interconnect systems (telcall), GPS location, ALE (automatic link establishment, data transmision and remote diagnostics. Operating from 12 volt (13.8vdc) dc supplies, the transmitter is rated at 125 watt PEP in voice mode and is protected from over voltage or reverse voltage application.
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AnswerID: 189983   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:49

skippie replied:

sorry.I fogot to tell you the price,
at this stage it's $1100
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FollowupID: 447586   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:21

The Landy posted:

New with an auto tune antenna is about $2900. I saw one recently for around $2000 that was in good order and the guy could have sold it 10 times at that price....not sure if that helps you, but gives some guide.
"Those that don't think it can be done
shouldn't bother the person doing it..."
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FollowupID: 447587   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:22

brian posted:

does it include the aerial ???????????
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FollowupID: 447649   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 12:09

The Landy posted:

Yes........
"Those that don't think it can be done
shouldn't bother the person doing it..."
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FollowupID: 447704   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 16:09

skippie posted:

g'day brian
there is no aerial, any idea how much they cost
i was told i could get a whip or auto tune
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FollowupID: 447725   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 17:49

brian posted:

Not certain of accurate price,i think the autotune could be close to $1000 but ring barrett for accurate price before you buy.
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FollowupID: 447748   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:03

Member - Phil G (SA) posted:

Skippie, I was once told that the autotune for the Barrett was $1600.

I run mine off a wire sometimes - thats a cheap option!! But $1100 for just the set and head unit is no bargain.
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FollowupID: 447854   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 09:15

skippie posted:

Thanks brian
I think i'll give it a miss for now
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AnswerID: 189988   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:46

Member - Mike DID replied:

If the transmitter is rated at 125 watts then it's illegal to use it on VKS737, RFDS or other land-based frequencies - maximum is 100 watts.

This could be a marine unit - which MAY have Selcal that won't work to VKS737 etc.
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FollowupID: 447619   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:08

Darian (SA) posted:

Hoards of VKS members legally use the 950 which is rated at 100W nominal and 125W PEP. Seems the common output is around 100W at the nominal 12V supply (given sufficient current too) - IF the battery is running at 13.8V, and other variables are favourable then they can reach 125W I'm told.
Palm Valley campground, Northern Territory.
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FollowupID: 447631   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:42

Member - Mike DID posted:

Barrett, Codan etc make variants of their transceivers with different capabilities.

The Land version will limit its power output to 100watts no matter what battery voltage (unless someone's fiddled with it)- they wouldn't get Type Approval if they went above 100watts with varying battery voltage.

The Marine version will go up to 125 watts and have Marine Selcal - different to VKS737 Selcal.

Be careful which one you buy.
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FollowupID: 447664   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 13:17

Member - Phil G (SA) posted:

I think Darian is correct. My barrett was purchased new for the 4wd and is 125watts.
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FollowupID: 447708   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 16:38

Member - Mike DID posted:

If any radio has been set up to put out more than 100 watts on any land Mobile frequency, then you are operating illegally.

Have a look at Site Link
" if the licensee operates a land mobile station: in a MF or HF band-the licensee must operate the transmitter using an EIRP not exceeding 100 watts. "

The maximum power a radio is capable of and what it puts out on a particular channel can be quite different.
Barrett make the 950 to cover a wide range of licencing types " The Barrett 950 is built to the specifications of European Standard ETS 300 373, a standard developed for the exacting role of international maritime distress communications, and exceeds the requirements of Australian land mobile communications standard RB209". When it is programmed for a particular purpose it has to have each channel programmed for a particular purpose - e.g. a land mobile channel will put out 100watts - if you move the radio to your boat and operate a marine HF channel the radio will put out 125 watts. If you switch to a 27MHz it will put out 5 watts (if programmed to be legal).

The only reason I raise these differences between Land and Marine radios is because a radio programmed for one mode cannot be easily re-programmed for another mode - that's required by law. If it is a marine type, it will not work on VKS737 Selcal.
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FollowupID: 448054   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 22:23

Darian (SA) posted:

Well - I can only say that with my owner's manual for the Barrett 950 at hand I refer to page 34 - there are two power settings on this radio - 125W pep (voice) for the high setting - 25W pep (voice) for the low - you can toggle between the two settings. As stated earlier, hoards of these radios are in use by VKS members, many supplied by Barrett dealers who know the intended end use. The radio is described in the book's opening blurb as intended for use in offroad vehicles, boats and planes.... it also states clearly that when supplied at 13.8V it will put out 125W voice ! I contend that with a much more commonly found voltage of 12 at the point of supply in most vehicle installations, it would be easy to nominate 100W as a true projection for nearly all circumstances - no ?
Palm Valley campground, Northern Territory.
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AnswerID: 189997   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:45

Troop-a-dour replied:

Something with a bit better value:
On ebay Codan9323 WITH 9350 Autotune.
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AnswerID: 190001   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:56

Footloose replied:

Does it come with an autotune ? Is it a remote or base (local) radio ?
The 950 is not the current model, and you'd have to find out if its still supported by Barrett (spares etc).
The 950 remote head is larger than the Codan 9350, but both radios work well.
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FollowupID: 447620   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:08

Footloose posted:

Also, be very wary of any 9323/9350 units on Ebay at the moment :((
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FollowupID: 447622   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:15

Troop-a-dour posted:

Something we should know about Footloose???
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FollowupID: 447625   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:26

Footloose posted:

Umm...Yep
Unfortunately for legal reasons I can't discuss it in a public forum :((
Lets just say it's good advice :)
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FollowupID: 447645   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:51

Member - Andrew (QLD) posted:

What legal reasons would that be?

We are not talking about one particular ebay seller, just in general. Ebay have numerous warnings (produced as guides) on their site about various objects. They even warn buyers of ripoffs and the huge percentage of items that are Fake etc. Is there something buyers in general should be aware of?

I was considering buying a HF set off of ebay some time soon, and the advice would be helpful :-)

Andrew
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FollowupID: 447663   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 13:07

Footloose posted:

Andrew, the advice is vendor specific. Normally I wouldn't say anything, but on this occasion I felt it best to at least indicate that forumites don't end up with problems (that I'd probably feel obliged to assist with).
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FollowupID: 447693   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:13

Member - Andrew (QLD) posted:

that's ok if it is specific, though i/we may be concerned that you might be buying it for yourself (under some different name) and didn't want others with a similar interest to up the bid now that it has been mentioned here. Can you see where i am coming from?

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FollowupID: 447696   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:32

Member - Andrew (QLD) posted:

how very strangeI am now confused after doing some searching......Is there only ever the one HF set on ebay and it is passed on like the olympic torch relay?

I might wait awhile......

Andrew
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FollowupID: 447701   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:58

Footloose posted:

"though i/we may be concerned that you might be buying it for yourself (under some different name) and didn't want others with a similar interest to up the bid now"
Normally I'd find these comments both repulsive and repugnant. I have a reputation based on my word being my bond. Yes, it's an old fashioned concept that many are unfamiliar with.
My post was in good faith and backed by very sound reasons.
I don't have to resort to such smart assed concepts to do business.
It's obviously a very sick place out there.
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FollowupID: 447724   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 17:49

Member - Andrew (QLD) posted:

settle pettle :-) All i asked is that "could you see where i was coming from"......i wasn't accusing you directly of doing anything against your impeccable reputation :-)

You must realise that this forum, like others, is very hard to convey feelings, or even body language, and it was meant in a slightly "left-field" look at the situation.

It may have been better not to mention this situation in the first place if you cannot elaborate further. Naturally people are going to question your statements, and if you cannot explain, then that's why we seem to end up here :-)

I too have a reputation, and if you check, you would see that i do not deliberately go around accusing people of things left, right and centre without some valid reason. I can assure you that my actions should not be associated with something that could be considered "repulsive and repugnant".

I can assure you that if i was attacking your reasonings for not bidding due to a vested interest, i would been far less tactful in my statement.........

From your posting, it is very difficult to interprete your feelings towards the conversation, as it may have been with mine (due inpart to a lack of smilies), and as such, people are going to read our conversations in several different ways. I believe this is where most of the threads seem to go downhill at great speed ;-) I normally add smilies etc to my postings to convey "some" feelings, however once that button is pressed, there is no turning back :-)

I hope you didn't find my statements offensive, as they are were definitely not intended to be........

drink up, my shout!!
Andrew

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FollowupID: 447733   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 18:20

Footloose posted:

Sorry Andrew. But I realize that anything I post is open to interpretation, and there are some interesting people around. Sadly it seems that some people will jump just for the sake of jumping. Normally I just jump right back, and dont take it personally.
However when it comes to these matters I take it seriously and personally. I've never hidden what I do, nor have I actively promoted it here. On the contrary I've used any knowledge that I have for the benefit of forum members. Half my day is spent helping others in this area, usually for nothing. Its another way for me to "give back". So you can perhaps understand why I jumped so high.
Anyway, no harm done.
Now, perhaps its time to start planning next years trip :))



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FollowupID: 447749   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:04

Member - Andrew (QLD) posted:

Thanks for that response.......thank goodness for that ;-)

==Now, perhaps its time to start planning next years trip :)) ==

why? there's still a good 4 months to travel this year :-)

Andrew
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AnswerID: 190002   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:00

Darian (SA) replied:

I've been using a 950 system for about 4 years now (bought used) and its been very good overall - many k's of rough travel but still it plugs on. This one on offer could be a very early 950 - not sure when they came out - ask the seller for the serial number - Barrett in WA could ID it for you - even tell you who retailed it. IF it is a complete system in excellent order, that is very cheap. Seems $1500 - $2200 would be the range being asked currently. IN SA, you can go around $3000 cash for a system. Some of those 'extras' mentioned in the blurb (ALE, GPS" etc) may not be fitted - they are options.
Palm Valley campground, Northern Territory.
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AnswerID: 190112   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:10

Member - Phil G (SA) replied:

Skippie,
I just looked it up on Ebay. The reason its been sitting on the shelf 99% of its life is that it doesn't have a remote head. And it doesn't have an autotune.
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AnswerID: 190197   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 09:03

skippie replied:

thanks Phyl G
I don't know enough about these things so I think i'll wait a while
thanks again
skippie
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AnswerID: 190221   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 10:54

Member - Pezza (QLD) replied:

Hi Skippie,

Might want to check out post 36719, I think this may be what Footloose is talking about.

Avagoodn
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FollowupID: 447880   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:28

Member - Andrew (QLD) posted:

Why didn't someone mention this link before ;-) Would have saved at least 1/4 of this thread :-)

Things are starting to add up now...

Andrew
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AnswerID: 190330   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 18:01

skippie replied:

thanks everybody
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