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Overdue report on my Porta bote

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 10:34

Member - Boo Boo (NSW)

Took the bote for its maiden run on Tuggarah lake (central coast nsw).

About half way through running it in I found out the hard way, and much to my embarassment, that it will not do tight turns at any thing over slow speed.

About 15 years ago when I owned a flat bottome tinnie I could do tight turns fairly fast because the bum of the tinne just slide across the water during the turn.However this does not happen in the porta bote. Yes I no that I made a stupid mistake , It was a seniors moment.

On to the positives, we went to hay , kyolite moulemein etc for two weeks in October. the bote was carried on a cargo basket on top of the troopy. Since that trip I have removed the basket and have wrapped marine carpet around the racks. This has reduced the height that I have to lift the bote too. Although it is not difficult to now lift it onto the racks Except if the back of the troopy is facing down hill.

The bote is 10' long and the hull weighs 26kg. the 5hp motor weighs 13kg and the seats about 10kg.

The bote moves through the water very well. I have had a 12' flat bottom punt with 10 hp and I estimate that the bote is not much slower than that. It rode very well through choppy water on Burrendong dam. This was due to the design of the hull, which made for a very soft ride. The bote hull flexed a bit and the splayed bow absorbed the wave chop and kept the bote dry.

Because it gets onto the plane very quick it was easy to keep the bote speed down to a safe speed and still be on the plane which made for a good ride.

It was very easy to go around the trees and if you drop anything on the floor it makes a bit of a dull thud rather than the loud clanging you get with an aluminium boat.

It feels a bit strange to feel the floor of the bote flex when you stand up or when you are moving along. It does take some getting use to . Although most people don't get into the habit of standing up to often in a 10' foot dingy.

From getting the bote off the troopy and into the water should only take about 15 minutes. However, this is only achievable you you put it together when there are no people around. Unfortunately people see you putting it together and always come over for a chat. This usually puts about another 10 mins on the job.

Its easy to clean and pull apart ready for the trip home. This normally does not take as long as assembling.

The bote definitely catchs fish, especially at Burrendong dam.

To make the job of tying the bote onto the racks I have bought the straps used to hold surfboards on. As yet I have not tried this yet, but I think it will be easier than the current method of using ropes.

In summary I am very happy with the bote.

Regards Bob


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AnswerID: 205090   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 11:32

Scoof replied:

Boo Boo,
Interesting reading Bob always wondered how those fold up boats would behave.
It away's sounded a bit sus, unfold a boat whack a motor on the back and go fishing ?
Sound's like it might be another great toy to take camping.

Scoof..
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FollowupID: 465051   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 13:40

Member - Boo Boo (NSW) posted:

Well scoof

I was a bit sceptical when I first looked at 'em but not now.

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AnswerID: 205093   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 11:44

Member -Signman replied:

Did you buy it or build it??
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FollowupID: 465020   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 12:00

Member - Phillip S (WA) posted:

Signman...I see them at 4wd and caravan and camping shows, I think there are a couple of different brands now...But they cost a few bob new....regards Phil.

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FollowupID: 465025   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 12:22

Member -Signman posted:

G'day Phillip
We built ours with aluminium. Took some measurements- & did a few mods.
It's a bit lighter than PortaBote and packs flatter.
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FollowupID: 465052   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 13:42

Member - Boo Boo (NSW) posted:

Signman

I bought it. Regards Bob

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AnswerID: 205094   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 11:56

Member - Phillip S (WA) replied:

Boo Boo.....I met a real nice chap up at Port Smith W.A. and he had a folda bote, it must have been 10 to 15 years old (blue and black) although he had only had it for about 3 years himself and it still goes stong although it looked a little shabby.
What I liked about it was the fact you could carry it around all year and never use it and you would not really worry that it was there, however the minute you felt the desire to use it 10 minutes and it's in the water and your fishing anywhere...you cannot get much better than that.
Regards Phil.
The chaps name was Kevin and travelled in big old bus called "me and the old girl".......some of you folks reading this might have seen them...Ken and Joy....I saw them last at Carnarvan....They come from Victoria somewhere.

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AnswerID: 205099   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 12:11

sedg replied:

Just be cafefull where you store the seats etc. I left mine in a shed for two months and the whiteants destroyed a seat.
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FollowupID: 465053   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 13:44

Member - Boo Boo (NSW) posted:

Sedg

The seats are not made of timber on my model they are some type of very hard plastic.

Regards Bob

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FollowupID: 465099   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 16:07

sedg posted:

Boo Boo

thats interesting I wonder if I can replace all, incl transom (?) for my 2003 12' model?
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FollowupID: 465423   Submitted: Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 08:57

Member - Boo Boo (NSW) posted:

Sedg

Sorry about the delay in replying my email has been down for a few days.

Porta Bote has an agency in Sydney, it might be worth the phone call to ask for a price, or find some body with timber seats and build new ones using theirs as a template.

Regards Bob

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FollowupID: 465827   Submitted: Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 10:06

sedg posted:

Bo Boo

I contacted the Sydney office and unfortunately they advised the the new improved plastics won't fit my boat. So the template and Marine/Formwork Ply is my only option.

Happy Boating.

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James
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AnswerID: 205112   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 13:04

Pajman Pete (SA) replied:

I was out with a mate about 4 weekends ago and he has a home made one about 10' long. It looked exactly the same as the Porta-bote

He wants to build a new 12' one and I am going to do another one at the same time. The cost works out to about $500 for each boat total including all fittings and fixtures.

When the project gets going I will let you all know how it goes and post the photos on my web site.

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FollowupID: 465055   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 13:45

Member - Boo Boo (NSW) posted:

Pajman

what sort of material will you use?
Look forward to seeing the end product.

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FollowupID: 465078   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 15:12

Scoof posted:

Pete

You might end up with a few orders.LOL

Scoof
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FollowupID: 465101   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 16:15

Pajman Pete (SA) posted:

The material is polypropylene. At this stage it looks like a late summer project. We need to get the stainless fittings made up and order some fancy spage age tape from the US for sealing the hinge lines.

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FollowupID: 465107   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 16:36

Scoof posted:

Pajman Pete ,
Sounds good can't wait to see the photo's.
I have never seen one. (fold up boat that is) LOL

How good would it be to rock up with your C/T and a boat when camping.
Sure you can have a boat loader on the C/T but this would be more compact and would weigh less than just the steel in a boat loader for the C/T.IMO.

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FollowupID: 465264   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 11:34

Pajman Pete (SA) posted:

Scoof,

They look like this

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FollowupID: 465269   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 12:04

Scoof posted:

Thanks Pajman,
Ive had a good look.

Been talking to a few blokes at work they have seen them at the Camping or Boat Show in Adelaide.

I would like to see one so might go to the next Show.

I have 3 boat's now , don't know what the SWMBO will think about another.
Might get rid of the 12' Dingy this idea is much better.Will do every thing the dingy will do and storage is heap's better.Don't really need a trailer either.
Scoof.....
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AnswerID: 205122   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 14:14

traveller2 replied:

We've had our Porta Bote for over twenty five years now, it is white and blue and has the tapered stern, not square like the later ones.
We've carted it all over Oz, used it in the ocean from the top end to way down south as well of lakes and rivers.
Sometimes don't use it for extended periods but it is available at short notice as has been said, very stable and will take a heap of punishment.
We also have the sail kit which makes it even more versatile.
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FollowupID: 465425   Submitted: Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 09:01

Member - Boo Boo (NSW) posted:

traveller2

Yours sounds like the type that looks like a canoe and will only take about 2hp.

It only goes to show that they are not a dinky toy if yours and others are still going after 25 yrs!

Regards Bob

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FollowupID: 465437   Submitted: Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 09:58

traveller2 posted:

We use a 4hp on it, on still water we can get away with 2 adults and 3 kids but it is better with only 4 on board.
Ours is a 12 footer.
The later square stern porta bote's would give slightly more room.
I had doubts about the longevity of the plastic 'hinges" (we bought our boat when it was a few years old) but they are still as good as new.
Ours has wooden seats made out of ply as are the keelboards for the sail kit.
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AnswerID: 205292   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 10:08

Ozrover replied:

Boo Boo.
I'm in the market for a 10' Porta-Bote right now, what sort of motor are you using, 2 or 4 stroke & how will it perform with 2 adults & 1 10 yo?

I had a look at a 4 hp 4 stroke johnno yesterday for $1350. Does this sound reasonable? & will it do the job?

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FollowupID: 465422   Submitted: Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 08:51

Member - Boo Boo (NSW) posted:

Jeff

A 4 hp will do the job. As to a 4 stroke from memory they were to heavy and had the added problem of not being able to lay it down when travelling due to having a
sump and oil.

I also use an external tank and let the carby run dry before I lay the motor in the back of the troopy that way I have no fuel odours in the car.

Mine is a Mercury 5 hp and weighs 13 kg. If thats a new motor for the jonno then the price is reasonable. Mine cost $1500 on special.

I don't like your chances of getting a second hand bote, I looked at ebay for over 6 months and only 12' botes came up. I'm glad I got the 10' (did Consider12') but the 12' would have bee just a little too heavy to handle by one person.

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FollowupID: 465604   Submitted: Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 18:19

Member - Norm C (QLD) posted:

Jeff,

I've just sent you a PM. I might just have access to a near new 10 foot Porta Bote with an equally near new 4HP Mercury motor at a great price.

Let me know if interested.
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FollowupID: 465617   Submitted: Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 19:47

Ozrover posted:

Norm.
Replied to your message, sounds like a perfect excuse for a trip to the gold coast.
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FollowupID: 465686   Submitted: Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 11:31

Member - Boo Boo (NSW) posted:

Jeff

Sorry didn't read your comments fully.

The 10' bote will not go very fast with 3 people in it. It will also be fairly cramped
If norm can get a near new 2nd hand bote then go for it.

I paid about 5200 for motor, bote and oars and deliver to Scone.

Regards Bob

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AnswerID: 205294   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 10:12

Truckster (Vic) replied:

Is that pronounced porta Botty?
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FollowupID: 465312   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 16:04

Scoof posted:

Yeh if that float's your boat.
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AnswerID: 205355   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 17:08

Bros 1 replied:

Boo Boo,
Saw on up at Bathurst Bay this year. The couple in it were heading back to their camp from a small island a couple of k's off the coast and were heading into a 30 knot breeze and 2/3 foot chop. Previously i thought these things were a bit fragile and only suited to calm waters, but since then maybe they are not such a gimmick.
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