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Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 13:38

Rokkitt

Hi,

Hoping someone can advise me correctly....can an alternator be rotated in either direction - clockwise or anti-clockwise and still achieve a similar output?

Also can anyone advise the most effective revolutions for optimum output? and finally can the output be directly connected to the battery?

Thanks in advance
Rod
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AnswerID: 207985   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 13:52

joc45 replied:

Hi Rod,
The alternator can operate in either direction.
Optimum revs - These things start charging at about 700 engine rpm, and there is usually a step-up of 2 or 3 to one with the pulleys. But you will need more revs to get a good output, so I'd consider 2-3000 rpm on the alternator at least.

Provided there is a regulator, either built-in or external, you can then connect directly to the battery. Don't even think of it without a regulator. An unregulated alternator can deliver 50 volts or more. Most modern alternators have a built-in regulator, but sometimes there is an external sense lead; ie, volts are sensed at the battery and fed back to the alternator to operate the regulator. This is done to correct for voltage drop on the main charge lead.

Gerry
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AnswerID: 207986   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 13:57

Wayne-o replied:

It does not matter which way you rotate an alternator, it is alternating current, and i don't see a problem with connecting it directly to a battery, although i am curious as to why you want to rotate one, in a direction other than that in which the engine is set up and why you want to connect it directly to a battery, as for optimum output, the revolutions of an alternator decide the frquency of the power output, ie 1500rpm=50hz, what you would get out of the wall socet at you house!

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FollowupID: 467905   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 14:09

Rokkitt posted:

Hi,

During a recent camping trip I managed to severely discharge both the camper batteries, thinking this would simply a case of hooking up a small 8A generator however the circuit breaker continually tripped.....when I got home I stripped the genny and sourced a small alternator out of a laser....couldn't believe it when I removed it and found they are capable of 60A!!!

Well I would now like to directly connect the shaft of the alternator with the output of the genny however the alternator rotation direction will be reversed without the pulleys in place, so the reason for my query.

I believe the regulator is internal but as the wires dissapear into the cloud called "the wiring loom" I was not sure if it then went directly to the battery or to some other device.

Regards
Rod
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FollowupID: 467906   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 14:12

Wayne-o posted:

Hook it up, attatch a multi metre, see if it works, couldnt hurt and i cant see why not!

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FollowupID: 467973   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 18:49

Member - Jiarna (NT) posted:

Should work fine. I believe that is basically what the Christie Engineering battery chargers are. www.christieengineering.com.au/

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AnswerID: 208050   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 19:24

Mark Taylor replied:

You can rotate an alternator in either direction.. makes no difference to output.

However.. the caveat is that al alternator cools itself by drawing ain in the slip rings end, over the staor and rotor and out the other end.

Make sure your alternator has a unidirectional fan. Some don't.

Cheers

MT
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AnswerID: 208068   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:09

kev.h replied:

Tried that with a small Honda generator ( parts were too dear so had the same thought as you) encountered the following problems
1- the motor probably will not drive the the alternator without mods as its is about 6 or 7 times the output which equates to 6 or 7 times the power to drive - the solution is to fit a variable resistance in the field circuit so you can adjust the output so you dont overload the motor i used a resistor from a variable speed fan
2- the coil was fed from seperate windings in the original generator- as the alternator does nothing under 500 + rpm no spark you have to wire in a 12 battery to get spark to start the motor
3- the points were driven from the end of the generator and not mounted on the motor so had to devise an electronic ignition system that could be driven from the alternator
4- it ran after much work but was too much trouble so i bought a $99 one from Home Hardware if it breaks i'll buy another
Realy cant understand why i spent so much time on the old one maybe i just like a challenge ( i have a shed full of failed good ideas)
Dont let me put you off at least you have some idea of what you are up against best of luck
Kev
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AnswerID: 208070   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:15

Eric Experience. replied:

Rokkitt.
The fan is the only difference . if you can not find a left hand fan use one that has blades that run radially, Eric.
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