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Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 19:52

Member - Norm C (QLD)

I use Shell Rimula 15W 40 in my Hilux when I do my own servicing (5,000 KM service; I get the 10,000 service done by Toyota while the vehicle is under warranty). The Hilux is the new Common Rail 3.0 TD.

We now have a GQ 4.2 naturally aspirated SWB in the family as well. We will do all routine servicing on it ourselves.

Is Shell Rimula OK in the older tech GQ? If not, is there another oil that would be good for both?

I don't mind using good (read expensive) oil. But if possible would prefer to use the same in both vehicles so I can at least get the saving from buying in 20 litre drums.

Super Cr@p has Rimula on special at the moment. 25 litres (20 litre drum plus bonus 5 litre) for $95. If it's suitable for both vehicles, I'll get some.

NOrm C

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AnswerID: 208056   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 20:15

samsgoneagain replied:

here we go again
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FollowupID: 467988   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 20:30

Member - Norm C (QLD) posted:

Thanks for the helpful response. I asked a simple question and got a simple(tons) answer.
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AnswerID: 208059   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 20:47

Exploder replied:

It should be Fine mate, As it meats all the new and most of the older API diesel engine oil specifications.
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AnswerID: 208073   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:24

Richard Kovac replied:

Norm

Most vehicle manfactures will ask for an oil standard OR better cf cg or something..

Rimula x has been around for years it should be OK..

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AnswerID: 208079   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:48

Bilbo replied:

Norm,

As Richard sez, Rimula has been around as a standard fleet oil fer donkeys years. It's still used today in truck engines. It'll be OK in yer SWB GQ 4.2.

It's a high detergent oil so if the GQ has been running on yer usual "Castrol GTX3" type modern flashy oil that tends to "hold and encapsulate" the contaminants, then expect a lot of dirty filters and black engine oils when ya come to the oil changes.

Rimula doesn't have a long life in an engine and demands that you change it REGULARLY. It's a good oil but don't skimp on it as it can break down quite quickly.

Bilbo
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FollowupID: 468035   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 23:06

Footloose posted:

Bilbo, an interesting answer. I used Rimula for years. I found it good stuff...but...
Occasionally I miss an oil change due to time constraints etc. So my question is, what would be a good perhaps longer life oil ?
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FollowupID: 468046   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 02, 2006 at 00:39

Bilbo posted:

FL,

I'm afraid that, as far as I'm concerned, there isn't an easy answer. I was diesel mech as a younger man, and I've seen some 'orrible jelly like stuff come from diesel engine sumps where the oil wasn't changed regularly. I had one truck where the oil wouldn't come out of the sump plug!!!

We pulled the sump off and there was a solid cake of jelly with just a very small, but deep, pool of usable oil. It was like gorilla snot.

My recommendation for diesel engines is - DON't MISS AN OIL CHANGE.

However, that ruling is based on "older tech" motors. There are diesel engines around these days that do 20,000 kms between oil changes. Personally, I'd still change the oil every 5,000 kms anyway. I don't trust 'em - seen too many stuff ups.

I suppose these days it depends on what engine you're driving. My Chevissan is 'old tech' so I change it religiously at 5,000 kms. As I did with old 4.2 Nissan donk. My former 100 series TD 'Cruiser was specified as "change oil every 10,000 kms, unless severe conditions, then every 5,000 kms". Now, the TD Cruiser engine is pretty high tech but they still recommend 5,000 kms for severe duty.

I use Caltex Dello Gold in the Chevissan.

These days that are that many 'different' oils on the market. I'd speak with the oil companies before choosing.

Sorry - best I can do.

Bilbo

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FollowupID: 468051   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 02, 2006 at 05:21

666toy posted:

You hit the nail on the head bilbo,
one earthmoving company i worked for used rimula x on just about everything BUT i noticed that a lot of the trucks & machines started using oil after only 200 hrs instead of the regular 250hrs.
I brought this up with the owner & we changed to valvoline oil 15/40 .The outcome was most vehicles & machines stopped using oil in between service intervals.
I too find that rimula x is a sound oil but do not go over service interval of 5000klm regardless what eng manufactures say. Excellent flushing oil though ....666toy
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FollowupID: 468053   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 02, 2006 at 06:17

just_cruizn posted:

Spot on guys.. Engines just love new fresh oil, change mine every 5000km, oil is cheap considering its the life line of your engine..
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AnswerID: 208131   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 02, 2006 at 09:20

snow replied:

Go to Xaltex.com.au and there is an oil selection tool, select vehicle make and model and the reccomended oils are displayed...think some ofthe other companies have similar on their websites...paid 80 for 20l ofDelo400 in Rocky yesterday
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AnswerID: 208151   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:20

anglepole replied:

Check out what Shell recommends.

www.shell.com
/home/au-en/html/iwgen/shell_for_businesses/lube_match/app_lubematch.html

Happy motoring
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AnswerID: 208179   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 02, 2006 at 16:01

kiwicol replied:

some times changing the brand of oil to what the vehicle has been running can cause big oil consumption, i have a GQ diesal and have used valvoline which is nissans choice of oil and changed to castrol and in that 5000 k period used 1.5 litres of oil so went straight back to valvoline and no probs since.Col
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