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Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 17:18

Member - Phil G (SA)

Found this on another group. What do you think?
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AnswerID: 219487   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 17:25

Richard Kovac replied:

Nice

Hope it still has the same dash..:-)
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FollowupID: 480042   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:09

Member - John (Vic) posted:

Must have, you can't change everything after all this time. ;-)
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FollowupID: 480047   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:32

Mad Dog - Vic posted:

Love it also, can't get better than that.




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FollowupID: 480120   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 22:44

Richard Kovac posted:

Hi John (& Ray)

pity we got ours for the long hall 10 - 15 years

can't afford to spend so much money just to swap it over in 3 Years ;-)

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AnswerID: 219488   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 17:29

Footloose replied:

Does it come in diesel with front and back springs ? :))))))
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FollowupID: 480048   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:34

Mad Dog - Vic posted:

no springs on them just some foam rubber, suffer :)




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FollowupID: 480051   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:41

Footloose posted:

No way. FOAM RUBBER ? How bizarre LOL
I had leaf springs on my 60, going to an 80 series was like going to a Merc and leaving the horse and cart behind. Love my coils.
But according to sauces (HP, Tomato etc) even the leaf Troopies can be made more comfortable with aftermarket.
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FollowupID: 480056   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:59

Mad Dog - Vic posted:

LOL, sorry but I wasn't quite sure what you were getting at so I came up with a smart arze answer, too many beers on a sat night, should have listened to my mother, don't drink and post...lol

They all have springs don't they, apart from those morris 1300's and those citeron things ?




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FollowupID: 480060   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:14

Footloose posted:

Yep, either leaf or coil springs. The troopies got a coil front and leaf back some time ago.
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AnswerID: 219490   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 17:35

Member - Doug T (W.A) replied:

I Like it and I want it , wishful thinking , but I like the way it has retained it's Troopie look along the side

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AnswerID: 219493   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 17:53

TroopyTracker replied:

Phil,
Not sure where that pic came from but obviously looks like an impression rather than just a plain pic. Seeing as though the ute photo's we've seen look similar (everything from the firewall back unchanged) I'm sure this is it.

The Motor show was supposed to have the new model there, someone must have been and taken pics?!?!?!?!

Would love know the facts on the motor. So far we've heard between 4.2 and 4.5l and between 150 odd and 200kw.

C'MON who went the show and have you got pics!!!

Matt
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FollowupID: 480040   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:02

Member - Axle posted:


4.2l or 4.5l V8 ??.
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FollowupID: 480041   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:07

Member - John (Vic) posted:

The full size of that picture shows the writing on the rear quarter panel as V8 4500.

Will look heaps better with a nice steel bull bar and some Light Force 240 XGT's on the front. But not bad all the same.

Hope it still has the ridged front axle???
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AnswerID: 219501   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:29

Member - Andrew (QLD) replied:

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AnswerID: 219503   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:31

Cruiser HZJ70 replied:

Phil-

I got some good photos of the new ute at the Brissy Motor Show last night.

If you post your email I'll send them to you.

-Matt
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FollowupID: 480050   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:37

Kev M (NSW) posted:

Is there any Pics of the 4 door version?????

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FollowupID: 480053   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:49

Member - John (Vic) posted:

How about the Troopy itself??

Any info on the engine and suspension specs??
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FollowupID: 480054   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:51

Cruiser HZJ70 posted:

The blokes on the stand didn't seem to know too much. The had no brochures or anything on paper for that matter. They did say there would be a 5 seat, 4 door (not including the back ones), 70 series wagon to replace the live axle 100 series. The ute at the show was pre-production and the only new 70 series in the country (so they said).
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FollowupID: 480055   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 18:53

Member - John (Vic) posted:

Thanks Matt Didn't you get down on your hands and knees and look underneath??

Any pics under the bonnet?
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FollowupID: 480058   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:08

Cruiser HZJ70 posted:

I did get underneath, not with the camera though. Nothing noticeably new under there.

I did get photos under the bonnet. Big intercooler and plenty of room for a 2nd battery.

If one of you members can give me an email I can send you the pics and you might be able to post them for anyone else that may be interested in them.
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FollowupID: 480062   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:15

Member - John (Vic) posted:

I starting to wonder how much they may have changed on this model???

It looks like the rear is the same as old and all they have done is push the side guards/body out to the same width as the 78/79 series guards currently are.
Would they have even spread the chassis rails for the V8? or will it fit between the existing rails and they have gained extra under bonnet width/space for the battery and other stuff allowing the 8 to fit straight in???

Seems like it may have all the same running gear underneath then Axles etc???

What about the dash?? I hope they have not changed the dash. LOL.
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FollowupID: 480065   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:24

Cruiser HZJ70 posted:

Dash is identical to my 92 model (except the colour).

The bloke at the motor show said the rails hadn't been widened nor had the track.

And it's definitely 4.5 Litre, unless the bloke that made the sticker on the side was on drugs.
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FollowupID: 480070   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:34

Muddy doe (SA) posted:

Hi Cruiser,

Send pics to me at scl@sclsd.net.au and I will attempt to post them up for all and sundry to see.

Cheers
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FollowupID: 480073   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:47

Member - Leigh (Vic) posted:

Pack rack, bull bar, kaymar rear, bush bar/side steps and drawers should all change over....ummmm....time to update? I'm figuring at 20,000kms its about time!! Will SWMBO be prepared to accept the logic?? Who cares...it's lookin good.
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FollowupID: 480075   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:56

Member - John (Vic) posted:

Hi Leigh
I was just thinking the very same thing, LOL all the existing stuff will shift straight over, saves a few bucks.

Good old Yota nice to see them keep a proven design, also guess that have so many 75/78/79 dash, body panels, axles, seats etc etc in the warehouse that they will keep building the same stuff forever.

PS.
By the way that picture on your signature does not look like the Wonnangatta River, more like the Black Fella road house on the Anne Beadell. LOL
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FollowupID: 480158   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:41

Member - Phil G (SA) posted:

Matt, Thanks a heap for sharing those photos. We went out last night, so thanks to Muddie for hosting them.
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FollowupID: 480328   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 20:37

Cruiser HZJ70 posted:

No worries Phil, happy to contribute.

Your posts have been very helpfull since I bought the shorty.

-Matt
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AnswerID: 219511   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:04

Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) replied:


Well Phil,
I can sort of live with the Gay Mardi Gra's Prado bumper bar as long as it has live axles and the much publicised 4.5 litre turboed V8.

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FollowupID: 480063   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:18

Member - John (Vic) posted:

Bull Bar fixes the crap front bumper.
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FollowupID: 480067   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:30

Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) posted:


Hi John,
You've got it in one.

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AnswerID: 219523   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:36

Trevor R (QLD) replied:

Looks like a Ford Courier grill and 99 Pajero lights........
But if its got the live front end and 200kw of turbo diesel, I wouldn't give a hoot what it looks like as even this one eyed Nissan fan would take a closer look when it gets to the Yota yards. (Dual cab for me if available)

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FollowupID: 480074   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:47

Cruiser HZJ70 posted:

150kw is closer to the mark...

Liva axle remains...
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AnswerID: 219525   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:49

Stu-k replied:

Looks great!!!..............just like last years model lol. Onya toyota just take em little steps lol.
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AnswerID: 219530   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:59

Member - Axle replied:


But what about the driveline???? The pissy little axle flange studs, the weak gearbox which can't cope with the present engine, wheel studs, diffs, and your excited about a turboed V8 . The thing needs to be rebuilt from the ground up if hp is to be increased dramatically.

Cheers Axle.
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FollowupID: 480077   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 20:25

Member - John (Vic) posted:

If my memory is correct and maybe someone else can confirm these points.......

Axle Flange studs increased in diameter years ago.
Gear Box was only a 5th gear issue in the first of the 78/79 series Turbo's 7 odd years ago, no longer an issue.
Wheel Stud diameter also increased when changed to 5 stud pattern but no different an issue than any other brand that is overtightened.
Front Diff, yep still an issue that needs to be considered.

But then again who said they have not addressed some or all of these points we are still guessing about the overall package at this point.
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FollowupID: 480084   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 20:56

Member - Axle posted:



John.

Well thats right, its only guess work at this stage, BUT! those modifications were needed to improve reliability on previous models, Its no good increasing hp and then rectifying weak points down the track, somebody gets upset usually the customer, seems to be a issue with Nissan & toyo over the last few years!, just look at this forum., and the thingsthat have been complained about.

Cheers.
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FollowupID: 480089   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 21:15

Member - John (Vic) posted:

True Axle thats one reason I bought the 4.2 TD 2006 a few months ago to replace my 2003 model.
I won't change to the V8 for another 3 years, hopefully all the bugs will be sorted by then.

Cheers
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AnswerID: 219540   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 20:48

Muddy doe (SA) replied:

OK Guys,

Thanks to Cruiser for taking some shots at the show. You can see his handywork in the Photo Gallery on my rig profile.

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FollowupID: 480119   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 22:41

Richard Kovac posted:

It looks good

But if you think the cost to work on the 4.2 l six is over the top wait till you get the bill for a valve adustment on that...lol

Good photos

Richard
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FollowupID: 480156   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:32

Member - Phil G (SA) posted:

Thanks a heap Muddie for putting those into your Profile. Mine's full of locked photos of Big Red at present!

Richard, it would be interesting to know whether they have gone for shims on this motor - I'd guess they would. Maybe they can charge 2 hours labour for the mechanic to have a "listen" with his educated ear :-))
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AnswerID: 219576   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 03:57

Member - Bucky (VIC) replied:

Wonder what Nissan will do now, if this thing is gunna be as good as they recon,,

also is it out in the States yet ?
or is this a world wide release ?

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FollowupID: 480151   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:17

Member - Phil G (SA) posted:

I hope Nissan does something good. Can't have a one-sided contest. It seems like they have been caught off guard - like Toyota were when the GQ came out in 1988.

Not for release in the States - they prefer the oversized trucks. They've never had 70series Cruisers, so the Cruiser diehards import them.

Release in South Africa is in May. Don't know about the rest of the world.
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AnswerID: 219594   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:48

V8Diesel replied:

From what I've read, it seems as if someone in Toyota deserves a medal and a seven figure cash bonus at Christmas time.

A live axle'd, split rimmed, hose-outable, factory 4 door with a diesel powerplant that is actually capable of safely overtaking or towing without any modification. Absolute GOLD. A 4.5 CRD V8 will make good torque BEFORE the turbo cuts in, unlike these tiny lawnmower motors that need to be spun up before anything happens. It'll sound good while it's doing it too.

I suggest that in a few years these will be the only new 4x4 worth buying.

Anyone want to buy a fully kitted out 100 series?;-) Never bought a new car in my life on principal, might make an exception here.
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FollowupID: 480193   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:51

Member - John (Vic) posted:

"hose-outable" LOL What a pisser, Mines got carpet so not so hose-outable.

And sounds good while its doing it to - Yeah great point!!!
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FollowupID: 480213   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:05

V8Diesel posted:

Carpet in a Troopy! That's like having make-up mirrors in the sunvisors.;-)
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FollowupID: 480227   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:53

Member - Leigh (Vic) posted:

Depends on what use you put the mirror to!! But just the same they need to fix the snorkle...it's absolutely useless the way it is designed.
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FollowupID: 480241   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 14:19

Member - John (Vic) posted:

Mirrors are good, a very useful emergency feature fitted to Troopies for lending to broken down Nissan's so they can signal passing aircraft for help.

Agreed that Snorkle needs to be removed and sealed up for water use.

But another thought??? I'm guessing that bonnet scoop for the inter-cooler will limit her fording ability somewhat, don't ya reckon?

Good to see you changed the Wonnangatta label Leigh, but now see another issue obviously old timers is setting also, "AB Roadhouse"??? What is its damn name??? ;-)

Cheers
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FollowupID: 480246   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 14:54

Kev M (NSW) posted:

John,

Any more clues given to you by Leigh and you forfeit the prize for this weeks pick a place comp. LOL

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FollowupID: 480342   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 22:03

Off-track posted:

"But another thought??? I'm guessing that bonnet scoop for the inter-cooler will limit her fording ability somewhat, don't ya reckon?"

Why's that???
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FollowupID: 480345   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 22:08

V8Diesel posted:

Air will get too cold causing power increase and wheelspin.
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FollowupID: 480359   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 22:40

Member - John (Vic) posted:

Water over bonnet will go where??? and possibly do what???
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FollowupID: 480365   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 22:51

Off-track posted:

Well it wont be getting inside the engine, so whats the danger?
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AnswerID: 219699   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 16:06

TroopyTracker replied:

Thanks to Matt for taking the pics and Muddy for posting them.

Great to finally be sure what it's going to look like. This looks like almost the exact same vehicle posted here afew weeks ago. With what looks like no mods from the firewall back, nearly everything will bolt straight in from current model also :-))

Can't believe the Tojo guys couldn't give KW/Nm figures! Holding out for sure, but why?

My only complaint is the loss of the best overbonnet view you could want (bar a rock crawler). Can't fit the V8 in without widening the guards I suppose.

I have similar opinions to most re new cars but this thing might just have changed my mind. 'Fraid Brunswick has lost my business also! This thing will haul ass. Can't wait to see what the output figures are, then how much can be added with chip and exhaust...... wonder what it sounds like given a boot full. Think I'd have tried to bribe the guys on the stand to start it and stomp it just for this purpose ;-)

Matt
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FollowupID: 480325   Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 20:30

Cruiser HZJ70 posted:

I recon about 150kw and 450Nm...
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FollowupID: 480440   Submitted: Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:20

V8Diesel posted:

Only problem is the turbo will smooth the sound out to a certain degree. My NA 6.5 sounded fantastic.

Ohhh well, I think I'd learn to live with it.;-)
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AnswerID: 220233   Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 06, 2007 at 18:52

Member - Phil G (SA) replied:

Another titbit of info:
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FollowupID: 480953   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 07, 2007 at 12:23

Cruiser HZJ70 posted:

Phil-

I think that's worthy of it's own thread. Any way to make it any bigger/readable. Be interesting to see what everyone thinks.

Post your email and I'll send you some good pics I scored of the 2007 76 Series wagon.

-Matt
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FollowupID: 481040   Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 07, 2007 at 18:53

Member - Phil G (SA) posted:

You're right Matt - post 42086 is now up. So I put up a 76series photo, and included a closeup of the engine thats more readable. Muddie said he'd put your photos up - thanks again for sharing those with us.
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