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Submitted: Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 15:02

Member - Royce

I just heard on the radio that smoking with children on board in a car may be banned in Vic. Having grown up travelling with Mum and Dad and 'chucking my guts' on every trip while they smoked, I can see some merit! I still get motion sickness, so much that I can't travel with a smoker. Hey...... come to think of it ... it's years since someone has smoked in my car or while I've been a passenger..... For that matter... it's years since anyone has even asked if I mind if they do etc...

So further to this. You can't use a mobile phone while driving. Can you use a CB?

If it isnt safe to use a mobile phone... how can it be safe to suck on a burning piece of paper and leaf??????????

CARNA SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1Royce www.funshow.com.au
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AnswerID: 16971   Submitted: Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 15:07

Kev. replied:

Just some trivia,

Did you know its legal to talk on your mobile while driving in the UK!
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FollowupID: 10584   Submitted: Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 15:10

Member - Royce posted:

Or not illegal....Royce www.funshow.com.au
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FollowupID: 10595   Submitted: Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 20:51

Voxson (Adelaide) posted:

illegal = sick bird................. ill eagle... Ya had to be there......._____________________________________________
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FollowupID: 10596   Submitted: Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 20:58

Kev. posted:

How about Polyunsaturated !

( a cockatoo in a rain coat) LOL


Thats it , time to log off !!!
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AnswerID: 16983   Submitted: Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 17:41

Brad replied:

My understanding is that it is not illegal to use a CB whilst driving - but using a handheld mobile is illegal. Available evidence is that a 'handsfree' mobile is just as distracting (ie dangerous) as an handheld phone , but is not illegal.
Go figure !!
Brad.
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FollowupID: 10642   Submitted: Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 15:55

David N. posted:

Yep! A scientific study in the UK proved that an involved conversation with your passenger OR using a hands free was just as "dangerous" as using a normal mobile phone- hence a big part of the opposition to a law banning the use of mobiles in the UK.
ie: anything that distracts you from 100% concentration CAN reduce safety- including hands free- but it gives someone a nice fuzzy feeling inside to ban them.
Probably having a row with your wife or girlfriend (or boyfriend!) would be far more dangerous- but that is not illegal!
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AnswerID: 16984   Submitted: Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 17:41

Ray M (Vic) replied:

The national road rules do not bann the use of a microphone. The section that excludes the use of a mobile phone states that these rules do not exclude the use of a mic for cbHooroo
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FollowupID: 10588   Submitted: Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 17:49

Ray M (Vic) posted:

> 300. Use of Hand Held Mobile Phones
>
> (1) the driver of a vehicle must not use a hand held
> mobile phone
> while the vehicle is moving, or is stationary but
> not parked, unless
> the driver is exempt from this rule(police or
> emergency vehicles)
> unless excempt from sub rule 3.
>
> (2) In this rule -
> Mobile Phone does not include CB radio or any other
> 2 way radio.
>
> (3) This rule does not apply to a driver if the
> Corporations has, by
> notice in Writing, expempted the driver from subrule
> (1)
>
>
Hooroo
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FollowupID: 10987   Submitted: Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 19:06

Andi posted:

Could you tell me if there is a web page for the National road rules you were talking about regarding use of hand held radios while driving. Do indiviadual state laws override such regulations?
A mate of mine whom we are about to go away with is a new Vic police officaer and His wife may as well have been to the acadamy with him coz she knows it all!!. I would like to have a hard copy to show them that when we talk on our UHF while driving we are not breaking the law and GET OF MY BACK ABOUT IT!!

Cheers Andy
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FollowupID: 10998   Submitted: Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 22:34

Ray M (Vic) posted:

Hi Andy

All states have agreed upon these rules. They are the Australian road rules. December 1st 99 I think it was.

Try here, part 18 section 300

www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/downloads/roadraustr_dl1.html

Better tell your mate to bone up on the rules a bit more. He must have missed that class.

Hooroo
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AnswerID: 17002   Submitted: Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 21:25

Allyn (Pilbara) replied:

My train of thought on this is the reasoning behind banning mobiles is more from the dialing while driving aspect and not the actaul talking perspective. That and the fact that every man, woman & child has got a mobile phone these days whereas only a minority of vehicles are fitted with radios.
Just my thoughtsDo or Do Not - there is no try !
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AnswerID: 17008   Submitted: Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 22:40

chopper replied:

The classic is people sending text messages while they are driving, bloody amazing.
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AnswerID: 17039   Submitted: Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 12:28

David N. replied:

In answer to Royce's question... Gotta agree 100%
Yes, -it should be banned- your kids would and should be able to sue you if you smoke. My wife put up with a chain smoking father until she left home- he smoked all the time which went straight thru her bedroom (she had no window to the outside of the house.) and in the car.
As a result she had very bad asthma, (which stopped when she left home) and also now has an increased likely- hood of developing lung cancer.
Doesn't happen to non smokers?????? Wrong! There are numerous cases of people living with smokers getting lung cancer.
The likelyhood of getting lung cancer if you don't smoke and don't live with a smoker.... just about zero!


Then as for radio's in cars- if they ever tried to ban them there would be a huge outcry and justifiably- they are a big safety feature. I use mine regularly towing a large van to talk to the truckies re letting them pass etc. Wouldn't be without it for quids!
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FollowupID: 10639   Submitted: Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 15:47

David N. posted:

AND
any cop on his own would have to stop the car to use his radio....
Ha- imagine that... not likely!
Just imagine the call: "was following a stolen car but had to stop to call backup". Two chances- none & buckleys!
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FollowupID: 10777   Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 09, 2003 at 22:30

sajh posted:

cops are exempt from using all hand held communication devices....
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FollowupID: 10809   Submitted: Thursday, Apr 10, 2003 at 12:15

David N. posted:

So will someone please tell me why they can do it safely and we can't!
Don't tell me they have extra "training" as I have far more including a CAMS licence.
As I said earlier- an involved conversation with your passenger is just as distracting.
I might regain some respect for the police if they would target ROAD SAFETY rather than REVENUE GATHERING> when did you ever see or hear of someone getting pulled over for tailgating!! My wife and I have had three prangs in 25 years- I hit a 'roo and she's had two people up her rear end- Not her fault! (she wasn't even stopping hard!)
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