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Starting My Diesel

Submitted: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 21:49

Imstat

I have a 3.4 litre diesel landcruiser. I have fitted a brand new, best quality battery.
When I start I have to glow twice. I guess this could be a glow plug problem.
However, are there any other gremlins that could be causing the problem apart from the glow plugs? Thanks, Ian
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AnswerID: 237546   Submitted: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 22:07

Anthony replied:

I sold my my BJ70 3.4D back in 92. I did have a problem starting the BJ70 which was fixed by changing the glow plugs. I might be wrong but I think I probably caused the plus to fail by thinking that glowing the plugs more than once when in very cold location (Bluff Hut, Vic) would help it start. I think the BJ70 doesn't like glowing the plugs more than once before cranking it over. At least that my thinking. At least they are not to hard to replace yourself.
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FollowupID: 498595   Submitted: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 22:29

hiab posted:

make sure you get the right glow plugs, toyota are notorious for different voltages for glow plugs in the same model.check glow plug relay, if not cutting power at right time the plugs will burn the tips.
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FollowupID: 498815   Submitted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 20:47

Imstat posted:

Thanks Anthony. I think I'll start with some new Glow Plugs. The engine is generally in good condition I believe. Cheers
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AnswerID: 237597   Submitted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 08:06

furph replied:

When my old 2h donk became difficult to start (especially in the frost) I suspected the problem to be associated with the glow plugs/circuit.
After quite a few dollars in plugs/diagnosis, low compression turned out to be the culprit.
New rings/bearings and a valve grind and she went like new again.
How many km's have logged?
furph
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FollowupID: 498791   Submitted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 19:23

Imstat posted:

Thanks Furph, My BJ70 is a beauty. I bought it a few months ago of a lady who had owned it for 17 years! It has 200,000 genuine k's on the clock. The oil is a clean as honey. So i think the little 3B it is in pretty good nick. Cheers Ian
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AnswerID: 237635   Submitted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 12:05

TimS replied:

Has the hard starting gradually got worse over time or was it fairly sudden?
I owned a BJ70 with a 3.4 litre motor for 8 years and I had several months of difficulty starting it cold towards the end. Went from starting first go everytime to not at all within a week.
No one wanted to look at it, said it was due to the high kilometres (over 430,000k) but compression turned out fine, glow plugs, battery etc, all fine and I finally found a diesel place that diagnosed the problem, a slightly loose wire near the alternator!
You might be lucky and find a similar simple fix but it took me months and a couple of cans of "Start ya bastard" before I got there.
If the deterioration has been gradual and you've done high k's then check the compression.

Tim
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FollowupID: 498793   Submitted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 19:27

Imstat posted:

Thanks Tim - I've only had it for a few months. I think I will start with some new Glow plugs. The Toyota ones are a bit pricey ($35-40 each)but I guess I might go that way - at least there are only 4! Cheers Ian
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AnswerID: 237736   Submitted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 19:52

mrbasilbrush replied:

Don`t buy cheap gloW plugs as I have bought off ebay (4 of for $30).
THey burnt out in 4 weeks and the guy said ? dunno ? and no refund.
Typical chinese junk..

Most auto shops have quality bosch or similar glowplugs which I bought around $80 for a set of 4, for hilux 2.8D.
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FollowupID: 498816   Submitted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 20:51

Imstat posted:

Thanks, Yes I think some trustworthy plugs is the way to go. At least that way I can tick the plugs off as not being the cause, if the problem persists. If you know what I mean!! Cheers Ian
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AnswerID: 237764   Submitted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 21:15

samsgoneagain replied:

you can test them. put them on a twelve volt wire and see if they glow. they should glow red in a about 3 seconds. if not you should get new ones
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FollowupID: 498861   Submitted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 22:03

Imstat posted:

Thanks, I'll do that when I pull them out. Cheers
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