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Inverters Feedback
Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 17:47
JERRYNIC
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I ONLY WANT TO RUN A FREEZER (940W) IN MY CARAVAN. CAN I RUN A CHARGE WIRE FROM MY TOW VEHICLE TO THE BATTERY IN THE VANIN TURN RUNS MY (1000W ) INVERTOR.
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AnswerID: 257392 Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 18:17
Mainey (WA)
replied: In a one (1) word reply . . . . yes
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FollowupID: 518653 Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 18:27
drivesafe posted:
Hi Jerry, as Mainey post YES, but your inverter will have a very short life.
You would be better going up to a 1500w and then you won’t be running it flat-out.
Contrary to the continuos rating of any inverter, running them anywhere near their maximum continuos rating is a recipe for a very short life span.
If you know what you are going to need and in your case you do, always get an inverter that is going to be able to supply at least 50% more and you then won’t risk burn it out as easily.
Cheers
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AnswerID: 257395 Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 18:29
Redeye
replied: You will require a big alternator and some large conductors to carry the current required. My Nissan patrols alternator would have some difficulty running the 1000w invertor and any other items in the vehicle at the same time.
1000 watts is around 80 amps at the 12 volt end of things.
Redeye
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FollowupID: 518654 Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 18:40
JERRYNIC posted:
only require a charge wire to battery in van.
Do you feel that even just charging the battery the alternator is going have difficulty
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FollowupID: 518661 Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 19:15
Mainey (WA) posted:
JERRYNIC,
The very very small battery capacity is the problem !!
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AnswerID: 257398 Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 18:34
JERRYNIC
replied: Thanks everyone
Will go back and review my invertor
cheers
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FollowupID: 518713 Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 22:27
drivesafe posted:
Hi again Jerry, if you haven’t already bought a
fridge
yet and you still want a large type, go have a look in some motor homes.
They fit some pretty large fridges in them but they are 12 volt which means there is no power wasted through the inefficiencies of having to use an inverter but they are still up around the 30 amp mark.
Just a suggestion.
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AnswerID: 257403 Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 18:49
SCUBADOO
replied: Jerry
That must be one BIG freezer! Is the 940W perhaps the model number? -:)
I have a mains operated 70L freezer operating as a
fridge
in my van. When operating it draws 55W. My 500W sinewave inverter only just starts the compressor due to the initial surge current. If in fact your freezer requires 940W - doubtful - and uses a stardard mains operated compressor then there is no way your inverter would start the beast.
Nev
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FollowupID: 518659 Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 19:06
Member - Alex K (NSW) posted:
What might frighten you more... if plugged into GPO it would be costing you $800 in electricity alone.
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FollowupID: 518668 Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 19:27
Member - Andrew (QLD) posted:
how so?
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FollowupID: 518757 Submitted: Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 10:35
Member - Alex K (NSW) posted:
Andrew,
Should have said per year in my previous post.
Few assumptions but something along the lines of...
0.93Kw
24 hrs/day 365 days/yr
10c/kwh
0.93 * 24 * 365 *0.1 = $813/yr
If I'm wrong I'll apologise in advance.
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FollowupID: 518761 Submitted: Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 11:15
Member - Andrew (QLD) posted:
Though allowing for a duty cycyle would reduce this figure immensely....in any case, yes, it is a noticable cost.
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AnswerID: 257427 Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 20:04
Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators
replied: Hi Jerry
940W ?
Very large freezer. Keep in mind that you may have a 30% duty cycle.
24 hours x 930W @ 30% duty cycle is 6.7kw or 550 amps per day.
You would need to run the car for 10 hours a day at idle to keep up. You would also need a 3000W inverter to handle the start up current of the compressor.
I would be looking at other options. 12V Compressor Freezers or 3 way gas.
Note: For those of your ready to pull my figures apart..... these are wild and subject to actual figures to be supplied. IE: Battery capacity,
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make, insulation, ambient temperature, alternator output, contents of
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..... can't believe I have to say that too.... It has just become difficult to answer a simple question without being harassed.
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AnswerID: 257452 Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 22:21
Brian (VIC)
replied: Your figures look about right Derek.
I just want a beer
fridge
THAT big for home...
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FollowupID: 518756 Submitted: Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 10:29
Kev M (NSW) posted:
Beer
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more like a cold room :))
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AnswerID: 257519 Submitted: Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 15:18
Mr Fawlty
replied: Would have been nice if Jerry hadn't SHOUTED his question....
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FollowupID: 518793 Submitted: Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 16:38
JERRYNIC posted:
IT IS NICE FOR THE SANE ONES THAT GIVE CONSTRUCTIVE ADVICE AND NOT AS THIS ONE WORRIED ABOUT SHOUTING
GET A LIFE
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