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Solar panel size question
Submitted: Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 19:30
Mogul
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This article is aimed towards the motorhome/caravan traveller, but is equally relevant to anyone trying to make use of solar energy to power devices whilst on-the-road.
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Didn't get one in
Perth
as planned.
I'm running the following items:
50L
Waeco
Versa light
Water pump
Couple of halogen reading lights at night
120AH battery
Looking at either an 80w or 123w panel. Would prefer an 80w for size, storage etc. but not sure if it would be a little small for my requirements. Basically want to be able to run on solar for a week or so at a time.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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AnswerID: 273184 Submitted: Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 19:50
jedboy70
replied: I have exactly the same usage as you have listed with a 120 ah fullriver battery and the 100w panel i got off Derek Bester works a treat, providing you move the panel at least once during the day in qld you can get about 8 charge a day easy. I have camped for a week and it has kept the battery at around 12.5 volts, am thinking of adding another
waeco
for a drinks
fridge
, that will be stretching the friendship I think!
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FollowupID: 536629 Submitted: Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 12:30
Member - Mainey (wa) posted:
Obviously you measure the battery Voltage (12.5v) either very first thing in the morning before the sun actually shines on the 100w panel, or with the
fridge
actually running, if not then you have a very serious problem !
A 100w panel that supplies 8 'Amps', nah, me thinks the gauge is inaccurate, or maybe you meant 8 'HOURS' charge a day ?
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FollowupID: 536637 Submitted: Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 13:10
Member - Andrew (QLD) posted:
I understood it as 8 "hours" charge a day......otherwise 8 Amphours a day wouldn't make sense with a 100w panel.
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FollowupID: 536641 Submitted: Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 13:25
Member - Mainey (wa) posted:
Andrew,
I thought it 'could' be 8 Amps (which is not - Amp Hours)
8 Hours as I have said does make sense, but it was not stated as 'hours' so generator users may not understand the terminology :-))
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AnswerID: 273221 Submitted: Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 21:33
lifeisgood
replied: Not much in reserve for that rainy overcast day.
I have an 80w for a smaller 35l
Waeco
. No water pump.
I would go the 100w folding way if the 123w is too difficult..
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AnswerID: 273275 Submitted: Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 06:53
Member - Brian (Gold Coast)
replied: At least 100w I would say. The bi-fold one that I bought fits nicely in the 4by, and keeps the battery topped up!
Bought it from
ABR
who advertise on this site. The GP-100.
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AnswerID: 273298 Submitted: Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 08:51
Member - Chris R (NSW)
replied: I have 130w locked to roof rack. Only runs 32 lt engel and shower. We move every 4-5 days. park with shade for good part of each day and have never missed a beat - in northern Aust. Has also had no problem on 5 days of overcast/rain. Went oversize for simplicity.
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AnswerID: 273328 Submitted: Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 12:17
Member - Mainey (wa)
replied: Mogul
If the Solar REGULATOR (that you WILL need) will not maintain the correct voltage and supply ALL the AMPS needed to the 'storage battery' then you will have a "small" or "under-size" problem.
The relevant 'numbers' listed, 80w or 123w, only indicate the Maximum Wattage available from a solar panel in PEAK operating conditions, not in AVERAGE or NORMAL
camping
conditions.
If the Solar panel is too small in Amps produced, then its simply too small and a complete pain in the, however if the panel is too large in Amps produced - the Solar REGULATOR will fix that !!
The 123w panel would be a Sharp - what "type" of panel is it ?
Some 'types' work more efficiently than others, the web site explains that, so it's not for me to tell you the difference :-))
Your 120ah Battery is, stated simply, only the "storage facility" of the solar system, it stores the 12v power produced by the solar panel, and as such is similar to a Dam or water supply, the larger the better and more reliable.
Some more "EFFICIENT" solar REGULATORS will run the
fridge
DIRECT from the
SOLAR POWER
actually produced, and will ALSO charge the battery, if there is an excess of
solar power
produced.
If there is NOT an excess of
solar power
then the same Solar REGULATOR will then allow all the
Solar power
to go DIRECT to the
fridge
and the 12v battery only has to supply the balance.
Eg: (numbers are ONLY for reference and not related to any
fridge
model mentioned) all 4 Amps produced @ solar panel will go to
fridge
and only ~1.5 Amps will be drawn from your battery - only while
fridge
is actually running.
When
fridge
turns off, all 5.5 Amps produced by the Solar panel will then recharge the 'lost' 1.5 Amps x 30 odd minutes the
fridge
was running, because it DID start running when it was @ 100% SoC capacity.
You (normally) will only need to use the stored 12v
battery power
at night, when the sun ain't shining and running your
fridge
and also maintaining the 120ah battery at a fully charged 'State of Charge' during the day
ONLY IF YOU GET THE SYSTEM SPECIFIED & WIRED CORRECTLY !!
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AnswerID: 273332 Submitted: Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 13:04
Member - Howard T (QLD)
replied: Hi
I have run nearly the same set up that you have with 100w (2x50) for 2 weeks without any problems. Got them from Derek.
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AnswerID: 273347 Submitted: Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 14:20
Mogul
replied: Thanks for all your replies.
I've just purchased a 123w Sharp panel and a 20amp Powertech regulater.
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Member - Mainey (wa) posted:
Welcome to the world of SOLAR ""POWER""
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