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1HD-T Gasser tranny?

Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:34

Dieselcruiserman

Hi folks, just bought a engine that came from japan to install into a 1997 80 series landcruiser.

I may have problems with two items, torque converter and transmission. Recently I read somewhere that the gassers have the ECU on the engine which controls the transmission.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, looks like I will have to source out the tranny and torque converter. If you could lead me to a used unit I would also be very greatful.

Rob

www.raddcruisers.ca
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AnswerID: 21838   Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 04, 2003 at 15:00

Justin replied:

Rob,
Unfortunately I have no info on your post, however I also have an 80 series 1HZ and would really love to put a 1HD-T in it. How much did yours cost and who did you buy it off?

Regards
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FollowupID: 14303   Submitted: Thursday, Jun 05, 2003 at 02:31

Dieselcruiserman posted:

We payed 6000 Canadian for the engine and we bought if off a couple guys importing them in thier spare tie.

Rob
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AnswerID: 21843   Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 04, 2003 at 15:39

Dozer replied:

Hi
Please tell us what motor you are replacing and what tranny is in there at the moment. If it is 4.5 to be replaced by 1hdt and you have auto A442 tranny (94 and earlier) then you will need the control box aswell as torque converter and flex plate.
The other option is to make it 5 speed. 95 on had a different box again, and the control for it was in the motor ecu.
Andrew
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FollowupID: 14304   Submitted: Thursday, Jun 05, 2003 at 02:32

Dieselcruiserman posted:

It was the 4.5 and the ECU is on the motor, could it be removed and position on the diesel? I was told the diesels have only two sensors, one on the throttle and the other is a temp sensor.

Thanks
Rob
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FollowupID: 14311   Submitted: Thursday, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:59

Dozer posted:

Hi
The ecu for the tranny is either above where the manual pedal would be on earlier models, or (and this is what you probably have been told) in the motor ecu above the glovebox. I believe it was 95 that the second occurred, and i also know that there are two types of auto in the states, the a442 that is in all oz cruiser autos, and another which is in the oz prado was put in the later 80 series. Log onto www.lcool.org and ask the 80 series list:-)
Andrew
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AnswerID: 21856   Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 04, 2003 at 18:15

Wil replied:

Hi Rob

Was it expensive? What happen to your old motor? Where do you purchase it?

I wouldn't mind a good one too.

Wil
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AnswerID: 21869   Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 04, 2003 at 20:06

Dozer replied:

A guy in Queensland is bringing in 1hdft motors from japan, Brisbane Motor Imports have a couple in stock Ph
07 3274 6611
Andrew
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FollowupID: 14279   Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 04, 2003 at 20:38

Dozer posted:

I know two guys who have put these motors in their standards instead of a bolt on turbo, and never looked back. Everything bolts straight in.
Andrew
ps 7.5k for motor and box, with your 1hz and box being worrth 3k secondhand atleast.
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AnswerID: 21891   Submitted: Thursday, Jun 05, 2003 at 02:29

Dieselcruiserman replied:

Thanks for the response, we live in good old Canada and the engine was imported from Japan. The engine being replaced is the 4.2 and you say the ECU is on the engine, any way to make it work on the gasser?

Thanks'
Rob

www.raddcruisers.ca
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FollowupID: 14313   Submitted: Thursday, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:07

Dozer posted:

We need to know what year model your cruiser is. If it is a 4.2 petrol 3f motor, then things are all different to the 4.5 twincam motor.
Your auto will need a new ecu that is meant for a diesel as the diesel changes different revs to the petrol, i would be asking your local toyota guy for comparisons between part numbers of diesel and petrol torque converters, aswell as flex plates and starters (sis you know jap diesels run 24 volt starters? 12v glow/alt/etc Then there is the differ3ent tanks without pumps in them for the diesel....you are planning an involved transplant...i would be looking for a complete motor/box from Japan.
Andrew
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AnswerID: 21900   Submitted: Thursday, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:55

Dieselcruiserman replied:

Yes it is a 4.5 gasser with auto transmission.

As for the 24 volt system, this engine is a 24 volt start and then a 12 volt run. Alternator is 12 volt which we have figured out.

Thanks again

Rob
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AnswerID: 22199   Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 10, 2003 at 13:14

Member - Andrew replied:

This was on the 80 list today-someone else has done your conversion

Hi folks. I've got a couple of mystery items on my 1HD-T, perhaps
someone
> here can help me ID them.
>
> The first is an electrical item that sits at the front/top of the
injection
> pump. It's brown, has a round top, and three wires coming out of
it that
> terminate in a plug about 8" away from the pump. This item is
> dis-connected, and I don't know where it plugs into. the p/n on
this device
> is: 89452-36010

I haven't checked the part number, but it sounds like the TPS or
Throttle Position Sensor. It usually provides feedback to the auto
tranny computer as to what the driver is doing with his foot. With
the earlier A442F's I *think* it would be controlling the OD and
torque converter clutch. Perhaps your truck doesn't have any tranny
electronics?

>
> The second item is screwed into the left side of the engine block,
about 2"
> in front of the oil filter mount, and a little below it. It looks
like some
> kind of a temp sensor. Again, I don't see any pigtails nearby that
look
> like it should plug into this sensor.

Is the connector green? It sounds like the temp sensor for the
glowplug ECU? Perhaps you don't have a glowplug ECU (considering the
truck started life as a petrol). Do you have a manual glowplug
switch, or are the glowplugs connected (the 1HD-T will start without
them)?
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FollowupID: 14589   Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 10, 2003 at 15:05

Dieselcruiserman posted:

Thanks, one of the sensors is for the overdrive, if the engine is not warm enought it will not allow it to shift(I was told this)>.

Thanks again

Rob
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AnswerID: 22224   Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 10, 2003 at 18:24

Member - Andrew replied:

Just realised you have the 97 model. It will have the smaller tranny and will not be able to be put with the 1hdt.
You need an A442. They do come completelty hydraulic in the 90 model or electronic 92 on 80 series. There is a halleffect sensor for the tacho in the fuel pump that gives feedback to the tranny computer on engine speed, then there is temperature and whatever else.
Maybe a 5 speed would be in order?
Andrew
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AnswerID: 22281   Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 11, 2003 at 01:26

Dieselcruiserman replied:

Starting to think that myself, not sure which way to go.

I will have to contact my customer and see what they would prefer.

Thanks for all your help.

Rob
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