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Submitted: Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 23:29

steeplejack

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HI GUYS CAN YOU STREES IN YOUR FIRST AID ARTICLES THAT THE REMOTE AREA FIRST AID COURSES ARE THE ONE COURSE YOU NEED AS IT EMPASISES LONG TERM PATIENT CARE WHICH IS WHAT FIRST AID BECOMES IN A REMOTE AREA ST JOHN AND RED CROSS RUN FIRST RATE COURSES LIVING IN ALICE SPRINGS AND WORKING OUT BUSH IT REALLY IS THE COURSE TO HAVE UNDER YOUR BELT
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AnswerID: 278928   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 23:33

Dunco (NSW) replied:

Good article mate...but do you realise that when you type in capitals it means you are yelling....and I now need first aid on my ears :)



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AnswerID: 278929   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 23:50

Gone Bush (WA) replied:

The CAPS LOCK button is on the left of your keyboard. If you push it this happens:

capslock.

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FollowupID: 543152   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 30, 2007 at 23:55

Gone Bush (WA) posted:

Yeah, I agree with Mr R O'kape below.

Sorry about the flippant post of mine above. Would have been more appropriate over a beer.

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AnswerID: 278934   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 30, 2007 at 07:04

Rock Ape replied:

It is a pity that the only responses you have received so far are negative, I for one didn't know they ran remote area first aid courses, so thank you for that.

As for for the yelling my ears are fine. Internet ettiquette what a load of B.S.
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FollowupID: 543084   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 30, 2007 at 17:09

Dunco (NSW) posted:

Read my response boofhead...

It said "Good article "".....................................

What is negative about that ???

And I was having a bit of a gag and letting someone know something they may not have known...hence the smiley face...oh, that';s right you don't know about internet etiquette :)

Don't be too quick to attack others Rock Ape old son

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FollowupID: 543163   Submitted: Monday, Dec 31, 2007 at 06:47

Rock Ape posted:

Well good to see you using big words like boofhead, must be part of the internet etiquette scene

I don't have to call people names and you would certainly know if I attacked you Duncky
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FollowupID: 543216   Submitted: Monday, Dec 31, 2007 at 12:18

Dunco (NSW) posted:

hahaha...good one

Get a sense of humour about you mate.
Boofhead is a term of endearment in Aus....ya boofhead :)


And I would know if you attacked me ????
Please elaborate.........
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FollowupID: 543245   Submitted: Monday, Dec 31, 2007 at 14:40

Rock Ape posted:

Well where I come from it is an insult which normally leads to 2 people rollin round in the dirt. The attacked me bit I am sure you can work out for yourself.
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FollowupID: 543248   Submitted: Monday, Dec 31, 2007 at 14:58

Dunco (NSW) posted:

I apologise if you took offence at my comments. I mean that.

Please read a little into messages prior to replying is all I ask as I did not have a negative response in the first place...I gave the bloke some helpful advice which you obviously cannot understand.

And please DO NOT threaten me as obviously you don't know me. Thankyou
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FollowupID: 543251   Submitted: Monday, Dec 31, 2007 at 15:26

Rock Ape posted:

Dunco,
I accept the apology and I would like to ad that I had no intention of threatening you, my meaning was that if I attacked someone, they would well and truly know about it. So I apologise for that comment.

My side of it is that I don't care if caps locks is on or spelling/punctuation is wrong as long as we can read it and understand it, then the person has managed to get his message across.

I had limited education and schooling so I am slightly toey about the subject.

Have a good new year

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FollowupID: 543279   Submitted: Monday, Dec 31, 2007 at 17:50

Dunco (NSW) posted:

All good. Thankyou.

I gave the person a friendly message as some people DO get upset with CAPS, so don't worry about those things too much as it may help him in the future...even if it doesn't worry you.

Go get on the grog !!!
I am :)

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AnswerID: 278949   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 30, 2007 at 09:00

Member - Olcoolone (S.A) replied:

Totally agree 100%.

I’m a strong believer in being prepared for anything when travelling the outback.

To most people it seems they like to tell you what they have fitted to their vehicle and how far in the mud it has been stuck but you never hear people brag about their first aid training, their first aid kit, what personal safety gear they have and what communications they carry.

Things can go wrong and do without warning when travelling.

I suppose a mobile phone, a packet of bandaids and 1 litre of water is all you need isn't it?

I hope if anything happened to me and my wife whilst travelling I hope the next person to come along is as well prepared as we are.

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AnswerID: 278952   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 30, 2007 at 09:20

Member - Straps (SA) replied:

A First Aid kit is only as good as the people carrying and using it..


I completely agree with steeplejack and suggest that if people are spending time in or travelling through remote areas, that they go and do a remote area course. Its about turning first aid into extended care.

First aid is exactly what it says; "The first aid that someone receives" but there is an assumption that if more help is needed that they would get it (Ambulance / Health Care Professional / RFDS etc etc) in a reasonable time frame. In remote areas, Secondary care may be 4 - 8 hours away or longer depending on your circumstances etc, meaning that you have to assist / provide care for all this time.

First aid kits come in all shapes and sizes for all occasions. Making sure that you have enough of the right sort of gear and knowing what to do with it is essential for any travel.

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AnswerID: 278955   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:09

Member - Fred G (NSW) replied:

Good post steeplejack, and I totally agree with Richard and Shane.
Just in addition to their comments, something I only learnt during a visit to the RFDS base at B/Hill recently is that the RFDS supplies and maintains a substantial emergency medical supplies box containing equipment, medical drugs, urgent procedure info etc, to most of the major stations in remote areas. It is a large (about the size of a large waeco) and expensive kit, kept locked, which I think from memory the stations purchase, and the RFDS keeps up to date. The use of them is available to anyone in the outback requiring urgent medical treatment, and persons at these stations trained in the use of these kits access and use them whilst in communication with a medical officer back at the RFDS base, until expert help arrives.
Anyone passing through B/Hill should visit the RFDS base, their presentation for visitors is just great.
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AnswerID: 278958   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:39

Motherhen replied:

Thanks Steeplejack - I had not heard of remote area first aid courses.

At regular first aid training, we always were saying 'but what if --" to the trainer, as training was 'do not leave the casualty'. Most of us were living on farms or small holdings and expected to be alone with our partner with no-one in yelling distance if disaster struck.

Even in mock scenarios that the longer courses used to encompass, once i had to play a stab wound victim - slipping with the bait knife and embedding it deep into my thigh. Even as a mock up scenario, the person 'sent' to my assistance, made her first comment "how far away is your car" I replied "about 1 km up the beach" "how am i going to get you out of here?" as the puzzled examiner looked on, watching for the basics of Don't try and remove the knife, re-assure the casualty etc.

I agree that no first aid kit can substitute for good training. Fortunately i have never needed to use mine in any life threatening situation.

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AnswerID: 278960   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:54

Bob Y. - Qld replied:


Steeplejack,

Methinks you have had an incident happen to you, that has prompted this post. You make a good point!!!

Our local ambo has done our first aid training for a number of years, and is an ex-bushie, so is a very practical person, and realises the need for appropriate first aid, for outback people.

He tailors our courses to suit the type of incidents we might encounter, on station. Luckily, we have a good (not perfect though) communication structure, and most staff are always with a mate. We have an RFDS medical kit as mentioned above, and it has been invaluable, over the years.

The method of CPR has changed over the years too, and when some staff had concerns about this, they were told: "Any CPR is better than none"

Travel safe, Folks,

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AnswerID: 278963   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 30, 2007 at 11:15

Member - Steve NT replied:

As pointed out by my Senior First aid instructor, Senior first aid will cover 90/95% of the situations you come across from day to day.

A Remote First Aid course would pick up the rest.

Don't get me wrong when I get home and before the next season my wife and I will up grade to a remote first aid course.

Actually today I went up to get some bread and came across an accident, I was the only one there with First Aid out of about 10 people there, luckily I didn't need it today.

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AnswerID: 278984   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 30, 2007 at 16:27

Member - Barnesy (SA) replied:

Good point steeplejack. Personally i tend to become complacent as i work in emergency department of a hospital. but a lot of people don't know basic first aid.
the more training and practise people get the better. i would suggest doing both courses to consolidate what you learn.

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