Andrea11 posted:

Hi all,

We don't have one but this morning we were at TJM Gold Coast and I saw a pamphlet on the Hiclone, and I thought Mnn might be a good thing. I just wanted to run it by everyone here and try to get a general Consensus about the hiclone.

Thanks
Andrea

Member - Doug T (FNQ) posted:

Steve
Top marks that...he he he he I agree

.

Member - Crazy Dog (QLD) posted:

Hi can I have your views and opinions on fitting a hyclone?


No!!

Grrr!!!

Member - John (Vic) posted:

Speaking of Futch's we have not seen Bill s for awhile.
I'm starting to miss the poor bloke :-)

Sand Man (SA) posted:

John,

Hush your mouth!

Member - John (Vic) posted:

:-)

Member - Willie , Sydney. posted:

Well cop this .

John T posted the contact details ( phone no. etc ) for the EO meeting at West Kunderang a couple of weeks ago . That night I rang the lady to ask her if I could get my van in there . She was a bit stressed out by EO people , as she had just had one of them ring her and try to sell her a fuel saving device YOU GUESSED IT ...... A FUTCH !

What a creepy thing to do . She certainly did not appreciate it .

Willie .

Member - John (Vic) posted:

Willie thats unreal, is there no stopping the bloke?

Hairy (NT) posted:

Gday Willie,
A few car manufacturers do fit them from standard and have done for a lot of years.
Im not for or against...Ive never tried one.

Cheers

Member - Willie , Sydney. posted:

I heard of one US company that did it for a while and then stopped - probably because of ridicule . Which other companies are there Hairy?
Willie .

Mainey (wa) posted:

Mercedes Benz use a system very very similar to them
Mainey . . .

awill4x4 posted:

All the ones I have seen fitted by the vehicle manufacturer are situated upstream of the air filter and are a device to spin the air so that any dust entering the air filter assembly is flung outwards before it gets the chance to contaminate the air filter.
Regards Andrew.

Member - Mike DID posted:

Yep, Pajeros have these Cyclonic Cleaners - then when the air hits the air filter, it despins the air.

Then the Turbo spins the air - then the Intercooler despins the air.

Where would you put a Hiclone (if you were silly enough) ?????

Hairy (NT) posted:

Gday,
Toyotas have been guilty of useing the same technology.
And again Im not for or against them but if they had a chance of working they would need to be put in the right place. eg before or after the air cleamer and a big enough intake AND exhaust to cope.. Im not getting into the debate....Its a peronal thing....If it works for you, buy one...otherwise dont.


Cheers
Hairy

GaryInOz (Vic) posted:

Waiting for someone with a texta

"Hyclown"

Grouchoff posted:

Mainey,
if the prerequisite to having an opinion or the value of an opinion is based purely on purchase then we are in BIG strife. Especially in Forum world. Secondly I value the opinions of friends and acquaintances to whom I have a level of trust and respect for. The generosity of them wishing to save others the grief of wasting time and or money should be applauded.
Maybe it would be an easier challenge for the non-believing mega-masses to challenge Hyclones efficacy by asking users like yourself to lobby car organisations to freely recommend these units.I guess my bottom line is I haven't ever had a lumber puncture, my unfortunate friend has....would I pay to have one just to find out he was right about the level of pain...nah. I review my earlier post and based on everything read since, my gut feeling and industry opinion, that opinion has now changed.
You might as well stick a lemon in your glove box.

Mainey (wa) posted:

Grouchoff,
the idea of an 'opinion' is obviously different to each person, there is always two sides to a 'story' and often both are correct..

I said I have two Hyclones and I'm happy with them, if that's my opinion, then it's based on the fact that I do have two of them and yes I'm happy, or obviously I would have removed them and got a refund, I choose to leave them there, and that's a fact, lol.

My opinion is not to be based on purchase, but on the fact that I do have them installed and plan to keep them.

I'm sorry you don't value my opinion, obviously if it had suited you then you would value it, as I've NOT posted they either work or don't work, I don't see the hassle.

As to asking car makers to use this type of technology, it's presently being used by Mercedes and various others also, but that's not what you want to read is it ?

Mainey . . .

GaryInOz (Vic) posted:

.........and as noted many times before they are being used by Mercedes far closer to the inlet of the cylinder than ever possible with a Hiclone, and are a part of an R&D engineered solution. Anything that is put in line PRIOR to the plenum chamber is going to have sweet FA effect on the air entering the cylinder.

Other application often brought up it that Toyota use them in their intake. Once again this HAS NOTHING to do with fuel atomization and everything to do with air filtration (like those cyclonic vacuum cleaners) in fact being sited before the air filter.

Mainey, could you suggest ONE car manufacturer that actually has Hiclones (or their equivalent) IN THE LOCATIONS that Hiclone specify? I think not, as the positions they are in have only one purpose, to empty the pocket of gullible purchasers.....

Mainey (wa) posted:

Remember in the old days EVERY ONE thought the world was flat
then it was PROVEN to be round...

Can I suggest you 'try' the device, if it's not as advertised you get your money back and you will loose nothing, but you can say you used it and it did not work for you.

Why not just ask how many people with 'opinions' have had them fitted and then returned them for their money back, I think the answer may be zero ?

Mainey . .

Jim from Best Off Road posted:

Mainey has a point, and the man is not a fool.

Having never tried them myself I can't comment as to their effectiveness.

Jim.

Axel [ the real one ] posted:

Mainey old son, methinks that when it comes to solar and batteries you know your stuff ,but on the benifit of fitting an aftrmarket device that is promoted as creating a "swirl" in the air intake you are not following any logical or proven physics ,, just like the fitch the hyclone guarentee is worded to the effect that the device must be returned in such a short perid of time that NO conclusive benifit could be demonstrated ,tis a reason for such and that being that "snake oil " salesmen still can find their suckers.

Mainey (wa) posted:

Axel,
I think some people should read my posts again, as I don't believe I have stipulated they will actually work for everyone or are beneficial in some way to all and sundry - do I ??

Yes, I do say I have 2 of them installed and I'm very happy with them, after all that is why they are still there and I did not return them for a full refund.

Yes, that's only my opinion, you have your opinion and others also have their different opinions too, it does not mean I'm right or I'm wrong - or does it ??

After all it's only an opinion, nothing more and nothing less ?
Has anyone asked Mercedes why they use a similar system ?

Mainey . . .

Mainey (wa) posted:

Steve what size is each of them ?
Or
How many & what 'cars' did you remove them from ?

Mainey . . .

Richard Kovac posted:

Steve just a little hint

they don't like you using subs. for swear words

everyone can read what uou are saying... :-)

Cheers

Richard

Mainey (wa) posted:

How many do you have ?
and how much do you want for the lot ?

Steve from Top End Explorer Tours posted:

I have 2 make me an offer.

Cheers Steve.

Mainey (wa) posted:

Yes, I'm prepared to buy both of them

What do you want for them both?

Steve from Top End Explorer Tours posted:

Hyclone have 2 for $320.

You can have mine for $200 as they have only done 10000 km.

Cheers Steve.

Mainey (wa) posted:

I don't have a sticker "stupid" on my rear window...

If you want to get rid of them be realistic, maybe a Look on ebay ?

Steve from Top End Explorer Tours posted:

To use your words.

sure it’s nice to be important - however, it’s more important to be nice~

I don't care if you buy them or not you offered, I gave you a price, I have never looked at ebay and probably never will.

I paid near $300 for these useless things so I am not about to give them away.

They are more value on my shelf reminding me not to do something stupid again.

Cheers Steve

Mainey (wa) posted:

Steve,
then obviously at $200 they will remain on your shelf, lol
As you say "I don't care if you buy them or not" so your still happy :-))

Mainey . . .

Mainey (wa) posted:

fisho, you posted, "but have they actually paid out the money and had them installed, then removed them and got a refund or are they just giving their opinion based on someone's else's opinion. what a load of crap"
fisho, no that's not 'crap' it's only a question !!

You say ""Luckily I was able to return it""
So now your happy, why on earth would I be 'embarrassed' just because I'm prepared to say I still have mine fitted and did not seek a refund, if I was embarrassed in any way I would have not posted at all :-)

Mainey . . .