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How to Keep a 4.2 Nissan Diesel Cool

Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 14:04

Member - 'Lucy'

This is how you cool a overheating Nissan 4.2 diesel – by adding a Auxiliary Water/Coolant Rail to the head. (see pics)










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AnswerID: 290243   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 14:25

Andrew from Vivid Adventures replied:

Hi Lucy,

Is this your work?

Was the creator a plumber or a plumber's nightmare?

Did you think of a new radiator or some extra fans for it?

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FollowupID: 555575   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 15:01

Member - 'Lucy' posted:


Andrew

You do make me laugh (not bagging you - just funny)

(1) No, its not my work, hell! man I am a Toyota idiot through and through.

(2) The dude who did this is an engineer extraordinaire.

(3) When this engine is 'a peakin' the turbo is 'a glowin' (thats why the heat blanket/shield) and the cooling system is miles from 'a blowin'.


I haven't seen this particular turbo glow, however I have seen others at the same time just like it, glowing cherry red and always wondered how they cool the whole shebang, and this is one very simple answer.

I posted it to give others like Roachie and Trevor R ( Both Nissan duds) and idea or two as they are always moaning that their rigs run hot, and wasted countless hours & dollars trying to fix same.





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FollowupID: 555581   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 15:27

Member - JohnR (Vic)&Kath posted:

Looks like a Crazie comp to me by the turbo size. Is it ready to raise dust, or gather it?
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FollowupID: 555588   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 15:40

Member - 'Lucy' posted:



Never you mind, I can hear the cows mooing for a milking from here, so it would behove you to git out there and see to their needs ASAP, instead of watching what I am doing.

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FollowupID: 555599   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 17:04

Member - JohnR (Vic)&Kath posted:

Kiwi has a lamb dinner 'cos his job is complete tonight.
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FollowupID: 555624   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 20:05

Member - 'Lucy' posted:



Is that a fact Mr J R. I am looking forward to a couple of weeks time
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FollowupID: 555628   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 20:17

Kev & Darkie posted:

"(1) No, its not my work, hell! man I am a Toyota idiot through and through."

Now you make me laugh as I am sure you have a puss bucket Bluebird ha ha ha

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FollowupID: 555637   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 20:38

Member - 'Lucy' posted:



Kev

Shoosh!

Go back to whatever it was you weren't doing before you happened upon this very important thread.

PS

I have a JEEP also, that kicks 200's in the butt over the first 50-100metres.

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FollowupID: 555667   Submitted: Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 02:01

Ross H (QLD) posted:

Must admit Lucy I dont agree with you much but how could any self respecting nissan driver disagree with comment (1) " I AM A TOYOTA IDIOT THROUGH AND THROUGH ".......hahahah
Most sensible thing I have ever heard you say on this forum...LOL

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FollowupID: 555678   Submitted: Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 08:32

Trevor R (QLD) posted:

"I have a JEEP also, that kicks 200's in the butt over the first 50-100metres"

You forgot to finish this sentence Lucy, doesn't it go like ".....then has a lie down, waiting for the tow truck to take me to my mechanic to be fixed before I can try it again."

LOL!!!
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FollowupID: 555720   Submitted: Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 13:40

Member - 'Lucy' posted:



Ross(H) & Trev

Listen here you two, I am the most sensible self-castigator with the best of them, who has no problems what-so-ever with dream machines that he now drives.

Actually ironed out the last of the JEEP foibles 2 weeks ago when they 'stripped all vestiges' of the original software programmes from the management computers and re loaded them with the latest software versions.

Just amazing what a software update (minus previous bugs) will deliver.

I don't like it in vehicles, however it is a sign of the times so I guess I'll just have to 'embrace' it and to my best to adapt along with all the zillions of others in the future.

B u g g e r! what a thought.


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AnswerID: 290244   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 14:26

Member - Oldbaz. NSW. replied:

Looks really cool...(sorry)..but why was it overheating in the first place ?.....oldbaz.
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FollowupID: 555586   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 15:38

Member - 'Lucy' posted:



Comp truck
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AnswerID: 290251   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 15:22

awill4x4 replied:

It does work but it's not a particularly new idea. The main problem I have with this particular coolant mod is the water take off points are on the wrong side of the head. The hottest part of the head is directly below the exhaust valve seat so the best place to plumb into the water jacket is on the exhaust side.
See pic below, admittedly it's a turbo petrol not diesel but the same rules apply.
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FollowupID: 555585   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 15:37

Member - 'Lucy' posted:



Nice clean looking engine there.

As to what side you use, I have no idea other than to have a guess that the diesel head seems to have insufficient room/space/meat to fit a port on the exhaust side. Also the turbo on the diesel seems to be a lot higher than on the petrol model which maybe causes direct heat problems.

If that turbo on the diesel above was sitting in the same position on the petrol model it would 'fry' it.

I reckon who ever did the petrol one, must have been in cahoots with the one who did the diesel one.

He has just used another conception for a collection manifold or it may be an evolutionary R&D thing.

I just posted this to give the 'hot forumites' a few ideas as to how they may attack their heating problems

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FollowupID: 555601   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 17:25

awill4x4 posted:

Lucy that particular engine (TB45 turbo) was built by Ontrack 4x4 in Kealba on the western side of Melbourne. ontrack 4x4 They have built a pretty good reputation in powerful turbo engines for comp trucks.
The head cooling mod is identical to that done by All head services in Braeside so I would hazard a guess that All head made the modifications.
All head also do a modified water pump with a new stainless impeller that supposedly minimises the cavitation that can occur with standard water pumps on TB/TD 42,45's.
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FollowupID: 555626   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 20:12

Member - 'Lucy' posted:



I would have put $'s on JPC , however as I have never spoken to the owner who had it done, I've got to admit I have absolutely no idea who did other than he/she was supposedly a very revolutionary, innovative engineering bright spark who is/was not afraid to have a go at R & D-ing something different to what the OEM dished up.

It also apparently works a treat.


I know a number of forum members have chucked $'sss at modifiying the Turbo and/or exhaust in an effort to make the suckers run cooler when this mod would cure their woes in a flash.

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FollowupID: 555639   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 20:39

Member - 'Lucy' posted:


Wondered, where you got that pic so snappy.


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FollowupID: 555640   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 20:40

Member - 'Lucy' posted:


Wondered, where you got that pic so snappy.


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FollowupID: 555721   Submitted: Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 13:41

Member - 'Lucy' posted:



Can any of you forum guru's explain why it 'double dips' occassionally with the response function.

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AnswerID: 290258   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 16:29

Trevor R (QLD) replied:

Hi Lucy,

Not quite the same, but my idea was to add another radiator to the top of my engine with the factory Nissan scoop up top and thermo fan under it to get air flow. This radiator would just be plumbed into the cooling system as an extra cooling surface area and add a few extra litres of coolant to the system.

I am in the process of getting an idea as to how much it will cost now. If it comes off and gets added to my truck, I will post results.

Thanks for the tips and pics.
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FollowupID: 555598   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 17:02

Member - JohnR (Vic)&Kath posted:

Trev, never you mind, cooling a Nissan would lower it's ability to cook a cane toad........
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FollowupID: 555632   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 20:28

Member - 'Lucy' posted:


Trev

That radiator/cooler you can see in the pics is a oil cooler, however an extra coolant cooler would no doubt work just as well.

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AnswerID: 290308   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 21:06

Tony replied:

There is another idea of tapping into the water jacket at the back of the head, and running a hose back to the radiator.

Something to do with cavitation at the back of the head.
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AnswerID: 290324   Submitted: Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 00:07

Twintrail(W.A.) replied:

Hi Lucy, sell the thing and buy a toyota
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FollowupID: 555724   Submitted: Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 13:46

Member - 'Lucy' posted:



I own:

(1) Nissan ( not the one pictured above which is a comp truck) had it for 27 years since new and there is nothing you can add or detract from it other than it owes me zilch and runs 100% on LPG without a hiccup. No petrol since 1986.

(2) Toyota - 75 series 1HZ Troopy (Just fantastic)

(3) JEEP - 05 KJ CRD limited ( Just sensational )


Soooooooooooooooooo! which one do you suggest I get rid of. (LOL)


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FollowupID: 555731   Submitted: Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 14:03

Kev & Darkie posted:

I see you admitt that you own a Missan now but earlier............LOL
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FollowupID: 555734   Submitted: Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 14:08

Member - 'Lucy' posted:


Have you got nothing else to do but wait and watch what I am doing you coota. (LOL)

Really!

Maybe you need to occupy yourself by milking a cow or two like John (R) should be doing rather than badgering my good self.

Go build a levee as the floods are a comin your way.

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AnswerID: 291063   Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 22:25

Twintrail(W.A.) replied:

Hi Lucy .buy new 70 seriestroopie and have no problems . as i see ityou can only drive one at time. pick the best and relax
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FollowupID: 556488   Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 23:31

Member - 'Lucy' posted:



Now that sounds like a plan

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