Member - Dennis P (Scotland) posted:

Impact on non-target animals
• 1080 is toxic to a wide range of species including birds, mammals and reptiles; however there are marked differences in sensitivity. Dogs are extremely sensitive, and most other mammalian carnivores are highly sensitive to 1080 poisoning. Herbivores are less sensitive, and birds and reptiles increasingly more tolerant.

Just 'googled' that.

Lost our 2 dogs to 1080 in Norseman in '02.
Missus took them for a walk near the hospital and they must have picked up a bait, by the time she realised they were in trouble, it was too late. Took them to the nearest Vet in Esperance. Poor little buggers died a horrible death.
Still dark on the thoughtless so and so who laid baits in the town area.

Motherhen posted:

Pressed the gogo button too soon -

Extract:

Canids (dogs and foxes) are among the most sensitive; herbivores and birds are less sensitive, and reptiles and amphibians are relatively insensitive to 1080.

I have never heard of bobtails being affected - may be loss of food sources due to prolonged poor seasons.

Motherhen

pop2jocem posted:

Agreed. If I rember correctly 1080 occurs naturally in a lot of plants found in the bush. I think particularly ones with pea shaped flowers but I,m not sure about that. Apparently animals that eat these plants as a normal part of their diet build up a tolerance as Motherhen has stated. I wonder if the meat or eggs used for baiting are affecting animals that would not normally consume plants that contain 1080 as a part of their food intake?

Cheers Pop

Motherhen posted:

Although 'sausage' shaped 1080 baits are made for aerial baiting programmes in state forests, as farmers, we have to get a permit, state where baits will be laid, advise all neighbours, put up signs, tie baits down (they are like pieces of jerky), remove ones not taken each day. Can't buy the baits without a permit. Can't buy strychnine any more. Crows can move baits - one reason why they need to be tied down.

Mh

disco driver posted:

Further to Motherhen's comments:

1080 is used in WA
For wild dog and dingo control in pastoral areas (as a dried meat bait)
For fox control, (as a dried meat bait and/or in eggs).
For rabbit control, (in oats)

These baits are designed to be target specific, the size of the bait and the concentration of 1080 in the various baits has been calculated to target only specific animal species.

There are restrictions on where these varous baits may be laid with particular emphasis on human health and safety.

As Motherhen has said, most of the native animals in WA have an increased tolerance to 1080.
Simply explained,this comes about because there are a number of plant species native to WA which contain the same poison compound as the manufactured 1080. The WA animal species have co-existed with these plants for hundreds of generations.

A large number of the Eastern State species have minimal tolerance to 1080 and thus are susceptible to 1080 poisoning.

Disco.
(22years experience in the work) Now retired.

pop2jocem posted:

Davoe

Feral cats are a huge problem and certainly need to be controlled.I just wish there was a more humane way to do it . I have seen animals die from 1080 poisoning and it is not a pleasant sight.

Member - Lionel A (WA) posted:

Great stuff Davoe, Boyagin is one of those little gems driven past so often but hardly visited.

Yep, some of them tracks do a better job than industrial paint stripper.....hahaha.

Cheers mate,

Lionel.

Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) posted:

Im up for another visit. Want o go there in winter with the rock pools full with frogs and tadpolses. easily
close enogh or an overnigher and some faciliys.
Brookton pubs not bad either

Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) posted:

Arggg I hate this laptop key board
should say I wont to go there in winter
unless i nearly punch the keys clean through it misses letters

Member - Lionel A (WA) posted:

Fair bit of surface water hanging around today, the rock pools that we saw were mostly full and the tracks wet but not slippery.

Had to watch for moss on some of the steeper wet rock climbs, had the Nissan scrambling for traction when hitting that stuff.
All great fun though.

I agree, would be an awesome place for an overnighter. Even pissably [hehehe] a little EO gathering. What you reckon.

Cheers.....Lionel.

Gone Bush (WA) posted:

Slightly leading the Thread astray... but I was thinking of an EO Gathering over last Anzac weekend but other events overtook it.

Maybe in the wildflower season.

Some choice spots would be Kokerbin Rock, Congelin, Trough Well, Chinaman's Rock north of Yalgoo.

autosparky posted:

have a fox problem at home in the hills took for ever but got 1080 in dried meat form when it works its great but i think with all the warning signs of the baiting , i swear the foxes can now read. put out 10 baits 1 taken , 50 rounds 22 magnum 16 shot in 22 days! . 1080 with sardine oil great for cats!. not pretty to watch them run around like mad for 3 hrs but thems the breaks with poison. (lucijet was worse for animal painful death)

Stu & "Bob" posted:

We used 1080 for feral pigs in outback QLD in the '80's.



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Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) posted:

Couple more



When I went there made a day of it starting ut from Pickering brook to Brookton Highway following the Darkin river

autosparky posted:

its now made syntetically , but its original origins where from the gastrolobium species