How long is a piece of string---------gas usage

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:35
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Hello again, yes its Me.
Upcoming trip 14 nights away, some eating out. (Cameron Corner, Mt Dare).
4 adults 1 child, 2 burner gas stove,1 small primus gas lantern.
The question, and this I think comes down to experience, using the stove to cook meals for 5 plus tea and coffee, washing up etc. and 3-5 hours gas lantern usage a night could I expect my 4 kilo gas bottle to last for the trip.
If not where could I fill the bottle, Lyndhurst, Maree, William Creek, Mt Dare. (the usual route from Cameron Corner to Mt Dare to Birdsville).
Please take pity on me if a silly question,
William
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Reply By: robak (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:40

Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:40
The string is twice as long as it is from the middle, to the end.
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Reply By: _gmd_pps - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:47

Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:47
the lantern use will probably kill it. Cooking no problem
I had 4.5Kg on the boat we went out with for 4 weeks
to the Abrolhos. with 3 people we cooked every night
and teas and coffees. the 4.5 was plenty. 3-5 hours a day
lantern use will most likely not be enough
good luck
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Follow Up By: Member - William B (The Shire) - Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:17

Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:17
Thanks gmd,
From the replies I think I will buy a flouro to run of the aux. battery and keep the gas lantern as a backup.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:27

Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:27
William, Why dont you buy another bottle? Buy 2kg gas bottle or smaller and you can use it for the gas lamp and you can use the stove and lantern together. The other benefit is if you run out of either bottle, at least the second bottle may get you through some cooking for that night and you can fill the next day somewhere,!! Michael.
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Follow Up By: Member - William B (The Shire) - Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:21

Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:21
Hi Michael,
Looks like I've sorted it out by getting a flouro and keeping the gas as a backup.
Just have to work out how to safely and securely carry the gas bottle on the roof.
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Reply By: JeffandAnn - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:59

Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:59
You shouldn't have too many issues filling your gas bottle on the trip as a lot of the garages cater for it now. Buying the second gas bottle would be a good investment to use for your lantern.
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Reply By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 13:20

Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 13:20
we had a 4.5kf and apart from the latern business it cooked and coffeed us up easily from Nowra through Innamincka and birs=dsville up and over to Alice....even then it wasnt empty but filled her up anyway, managed to get home from there.....

not a silly question at all......I would never have thought of how long it would last...

Laura
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Follow Up By: Member - William B (The Shire) - Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:24

Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:24
Hi Laura,
You are so kind. LOL
In regard to the coffee I am looiking for a little stove top perculator, just the thing for the cool mornings.
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 17:45

Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 17:45
As above.

For the 4 of us, 4.5kg bottle use to last 4 weeks for cooking etc.
(Depends how often you boil water for drinks/washing up etc.)

1 kg bottle for gas light use to last 2 weeks for maybe 2 hours per night.
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Follow Up By: Member - William B (The Shire) - Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:27

Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:27
Hi John,
Am going down the flouro path, been suduced by the light side. LOl.
A good idea about the smaller bottle.
Cheers,
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 08:53

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 08:53
We ended up going that way too.

Just got fed up replacing filaments when travelling.

Found gas is good when more stationary.

Only hassle we found with fluros is the insects they attract out west at night.
LEDs are not as bad, but have a more focused beam.
Gas doesn't attract them as much either.
You can give the lights a light spray with yellow paint or wrap them in yellow cellophane.

Even being seduced by the light side has it's moments of consternation. :o) Trust the dark side doesn't invade your camp too often.
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Reply By: Crackles - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 18:20

Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 18:20
Certainly not silly & was the very question that led me to change over to 12 volt lighting & unleaded cooking. Tired of unexpectantly running out of gas or topping up the bottle prematurely to ensure I didn't. Gas usage is a very personal thing depending on what you're cooking & how long the lantern runs for. From my early experience a 4 kilo normally lasted 2 weeks but I often boiled water on the campfire & sat in the dark :-)
Cheers Craig...........
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Follow Up By: Member - William B (The Shire) - Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:30

Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:30
Good morning Craig,
I have just brought a new gas cooker, did look at the dual fuel stoves but budget restraints meant the gas.
How do the dual fuel stove compare for ease of use and cooking times?
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 17:31

Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 17:31
Generally the multi fuel stoves are faster with higher rated burners although there are a couple of recent release gas stoves I've seen with a similar BTU output. Obviously gas has the advantage on ease of use by simply connecting the bottle & turning the tap on, some even with piezo ignition where as unleaded ones require pressurising the tank & waiting a moment to bring it up to temp. Duel burner models can be a bit fiddly to adjust the temp at times. The convenience of being able to top up with unleaded in remote areas and store the fuel on the car easier than a gas bottle were the key benefits for me. The other bonus we found is that in cold conditions a gas bottle either runs slow or freezes up all together, with multi fuel it makes no difference.
Cheers Craig.......
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Reply By: Brew69(SA) - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 18:44

Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 18:44
Take the gas lantern and then use a hammer to smash it to pieces. Replace it with some fluros or a dual fuel lantern, and you will have no problems.
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Follow Up By: Member - William B (The Shire) - Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:34

Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:34
Hi Brew69,
You are indeed a evil man, suggesting wanton acts of destruction. LOL
How does the light output compare re. gas versus dual fuel.
Also do the mantles on the dual fuel lights last longer than the gas ones?
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 06:21

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 06:21
Sorry William i don't use a dual fuel light. I use fluro's. Less than 1 amp draw and equivlent to a 75w bulb. My stove is a dual fuel though and i could never go back to using a lpg one again.
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Reply By: Waynepd (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 23:04

Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 23:04
hi William.
I have 2 bottles on my camper which is great because you can empty one bottle completely, swap over knowing that when you get a refill it will be a full refill. The lantern use will chew most gas, i use a 12v flouro on my aux battery, i dont trust those gaslights especially around very young ones but that's probably just me...
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Reply By: KiwiAngler - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 09:12

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 09:12
In NZ (no I don't want to go back there) LPG filling is treated a lot more seriously than it is here in Oz.

For example:

you, personally, cannot fill the cylinder - it must be done by a trained and qualified person. They wear gloves. eye protection and use soapy water to check the fittings before and after filling

Most service stations that fill LPG now use fully automated units

You have to sign a register with your name and rego when it gets filled

The attendant checks the test date etc and if not correct will refuse to re-fill - he/she signs that he/she has checked the tank details.

The cylinder is weighed/tared and weighed again after filling - you only pay for waht you get (not what someone 'guestimates' you got). Overfilling an LPG cylinder can be very dangerous (fires have resulted from this)

I havent found any where in Oz that treats LPG filling like this

p.s
I will not fill my own cylinders and 'sometimes' have to ask, politely of course, to have them filled - I then stand well clear especially when the attendent is quite happy to let the gas escape from the vent, doesnt wear glove, doesn't have eye protection - it is a known carcinogen
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