Kiwi & "Grenade" replied:

William B asked the same questions over the past few weeks and has bought a blackwolf.....

Check out threads 58996 and also his thread after buying it at thread 59151

We have had both the turbo 300 and still have the turbo litle plus 300 for the same reasons....kids....they are excellent tents and very durable. one thing I forgo to tell William is that ours lasted the night at Lake Eyre in 80km + winds without a hitch...the 4 other campers out there had their tents ripped to shreds.

They are easy to put up and deal with.....highly reccomend the blackwolf....but as for the oz tents...the only thing that bugged me was the room in them....

Laura

Im pretty sure I have a pic in my profile of the b/w lite plus up in action if not...here it is anyway...

Black Wolf Turbo lite plus 300

good luck....

EaglePatrol replied:

Can't provide a comparison as we have only used the OZtent. RV5. Our decision was made initially for the same reason.
We now use the tent all the time. what impresses us the most is the flexibility. (with a few extras)
Basic 30 second set up for quick over nighter,
Annex with awning for longer stays. (Sides & front)
Zip onto 'c' channel on car/van for extra strength in the winds or Zip up to a friend's OZtent an create a large common area between the bedrooms. (Connectors Required)
Add the optional fly in the sun or heavy rain So many options.
Dries quickly after rains, Lots of vents and a fine mesh on the windows helps keep even small bugs/ants out at night.
Open the back window and sleep under the stars.
The OzTent suits us.

MAVERICK(WA) replied:

sort of the same as which is best waeco or engel. have spent a lot of time in an r4 and it is quick and easy to erect especially late at night in the dark. cumbersome when packed away (but on top of your jayco won't matter). recently spent a couple of weeks away with a couple who had purchased a new blackwolf big tent - can't remember the type but it was big. they had no problems with it and put it up and down with apparent ease. the blackwolf showed the dirt more than the oztent but i guess that is to be expected with the lighter shade. i was surprised at the weight of the blackwolf and even though the oztent was 2m long it stowed easier than the shorter but fatter blackwolf - in traybacks. the problem with both of these is the price - are they value for money........no way. if not being used continuously then there are far better value for money tents around. if money is no consideration then either will prove sufficient for your needs. rgds

Member - John D (VIC) replied:

Hi sepp5762, I bought the Black Wolf turbo 300 for our trip last year and found it to be an extremely durable tent due to it's internal "skeleton" style structure, it's easy to erect (2 - 3 mins) and just as easy pack up. I didn't get any of the extras to go with the tent as the basic tent covered all my requirements but it is one I would highly recommend.
Below is the web address for further info...

http://www.blackwolf.com.au/tents/

Black wolf turbo 300 tent

Regards, John

TerraFirma replied:

I have an Oztent RV4 with optional front room zip ons and love it. There is no doubting the quality in the construction as is also the case with the Black Wolf. I bought the Oztent for ease of setting up, you've all seen the promotions. I can sit back and watch the kids put the tent up by themselves and relax with a nice cold beer.! LOL

HowdyDoody replied:

For what it's worth, we have the Turbo 240 (it's about 3 or 4 years old now) and love it. Never had a problem. It has survived 80km/h winds and on another occasion 110mm of rain in 12 hours. We have a 'river' of water running under one side and out the other. No leaks. Stayed inside high and dry while everybody else went home. We also have the deluxe fly and side panels which we use when we are going away for longer periods.
Can't compare to oztent as we have never used it but we are onto a good thing and wont change now.

Member - William B (The Shire) replied:

Hi, As metioned here I have recently brought the BW Turbo 240.
At this time have only erecred it in the yard to make sure all is well.
Decision to go with the BW against the OZtent was based on, in our opinion, a sturdier material and a better shape.
As I asked my wife, which one would you want to be stuck in, in the middle of the Simpson in heavy rain and wind.
The BW won hands down.
Ease of erection of the BW is impressive but I am a little disappointed, and this might become easier after a few goes, at the effort needed to put it away.
A fat gut and crook knees doesnt make for kneeling on the ground to roll it up very comfortable.
Having said that the OZtent may be just as hard on the knees and back.
I want a remote controll tent, pull up, press the button and WHAMMO. A while to wait for that I think..
I dont know were you are located but I brought mine at Budget camping at Minchinbury. (Western Sydney)(Link) Budget Camping
Also SA Camping World (Link)SA Camping World were very helpfull.
Cheers,
William

sepp5762 replied:

thanks for your input, we are in S.A. so will contact them. I have not yet found a retailer who stocks both...would be easier to compare them.Might have to wait til either caravan show in Aug or 4wd in Oct.

Sand Man (SA) replied:

Well I went the other way. Bought a OzTent (RV3).

Went to the 4WD show last October and looked at both.
The Turbo comes with a video to show how to erect and collapse it.

First attempt with the OzTent took 20 secs to erect (without the awning poles) on the back lawn.
(No video required)
Fold out the right hand side. Fold out the left hand side. Lift the roof up and forward. lock the side stays. It's that easy.
To fully complete, bang in the corner pegs and two pegs for the awning pole ropes and your done.

I liked the way you could erect the OzTent behind the 4BY and have a covered living area between.
The BW Turbo appeared to have an awning about the size of a handkerchief and this is where you would cook/sit during inclement weather.

One possible negative of the OzTent is the 2 metre length when transporting. Didn't bother us as we have a roof rack.

Can't comment any further on the Black Wolf Turbo as we didn't pursue it, but I'm sure it is a good product also.
(Looks like a retarded mud crab semi erected though:-))

Bill.

G.T. replied:

If you decide to go for a Black Wolf check out the turbo lite 270 plus. I purchased one from B.C.F. ( exclusive to them ) for $599
on special. Usually $699. Price may be different now , I purchased it this time last year. I thought that this was a good price.
One thing to watch if you have one of these is that the veranda has to be set at an angle -- ie one side higher than the other as when it rains water will pond up in it. Ours is 100% waterproof though. Regards G.T.

Member - Kingsley N (SA) replied:

We have a BW240 and it is OK, quite well made and easy to put up. Folding is easy but a bit of a squeeze to put it in the bag. It is surprisingly heavy compared with our old dome tent. The BW 240 has a couple of drawbacks. There is no roof vent so condensation will form inside on cold nights unless you open a window (Brrr). The Lite version does have roof vents but uses very much lighter material. The fly incorporates a verandah that cannot be rolled away when it is windy. You can only collapse the poles and add more guy ropes to stabilise it. We didn't get get blown away but would have preferred to be able to batten down properly. The fly must be used if you want guy ropes.

Other people in our Club have the Oztent and it too suffers from condensation bewsides being a long package when folded - too long for the average roof rack.

I reckon that for the amount of casual use ours gets, a $100 dome tent from Kmart would be better value than either.

Kingo

MAVERICK(WA) replied:

for what it is worth - anaconda camping in perth are having a sale - starts tomorrow. blackwolf compact is advertised at $399.... a supposed saving of $200. they may have a store in adealiade or may do a deal over the phone etc. unfortunately never sale prices on the oztent.....might mean something. rgds