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Fridges....Again !!

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 12:52

evosheas

Hi all, am new here and have been trawling the posts for information on fridges etc. One question that i can't seem to find an answer for relates to the use of 3 way gas fridges inside vehicles whilst running on gas. Specifically, the Chescold RC1180. Do i need to lift the thing out of the bus each time i stop and want to run it on gas?? Also, i just bought a Toyota Coaster which is a 24 volt system. Can i run such a fridge on 24 volts? All posts mention 12 volts? Any help greatly appreciated.
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AnswerID: 313604   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 13:02

Member - Troll 81 (QLD) replied:

I used to have one of these and it served me really well for the 3 years I had it but I would never go back to a three way. In my opinion they are only good if you are going to stay in one spot for more than 2-3 days and you don’t have a dual battery system with a compressor type fridge/freezer

They are hopeless on 12v even with upgraded wiring.
They are very good on gas and my beers used to freeze in the fridge side.
They take some time to cool down.
I would not run it on gas inside the car unless you have enough space around it and plenty of ventilation. The sucker puts out a fair bit of heat and it will burn things if they accidently end up over the little exhaust vent pipe.
The fridge itself is pretty heavy as well and once you get to your destination you have to move the fully packed fridge from the car to its new location to run it on gas.

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FollowupID: 579669   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 13:08

Member - Troll 81 (QLD) posted:

and I am not sure about the 24v option but there might be something you can use to downgrade the voltage to 12v before it goes into the fridge

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FollowupID: 579670   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 13:31

Shaker posted:

There is .... a 24 - 12 volt converter.
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FollowupID: 579744   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 19:41

garryk posted:

G'day
I would suggest that you forget the 24 to 12 volt reducer way .
I had a MQ diesel patrol which was 24 volt and had a Chescold , blew up 2 voltage reducers in short time

If you have some basic electrical knowledge you can try what I done
I suggest you give it a miss if not clear but

I then ended up running seperate pairs of wires from each battery( FUSED) and used say battery A in the mornings drive and battery B in the afternoon
IMPORTANT just make sure the case of the fridge has not got continuity with the earth or negative side of supply ; mine was ok

and do not use any other device such as a spotlight with earthed case - in the socket connected to the battery that has positive terminal even if wires are correctly fused it will spike to 24 volt

Garry
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AnswerID: 313633   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 16:24

Member - Phil G (SA) replied:

I know of 2 vehicles that went boom in the back because someone was running a gas fridge in the back. One happened half way across the Simpson. Small gas leak + flame is not a good combo, so yes you must lift it out to run on gas. And make sure its level.

They draw a heap of power on DC - I'd expect at least 10amps continuous - would flatten a good battery overnight, whether that's 12 or 24 volts.
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AnswerID: 313634   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 16:33

Paps replied:

I have had a 50 ltr Chescold three way fridge for twenty years. I run it on electricity while the car is running and gas when it is stationary. I never take it out of the car, but they do need ventilation. I'm sure the Electrolux uprights in vans run on gas and have vents in the wall to breath. Having said that I am in the market for an update which will in all probability be a compressor fridge on solar. Scott
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AnswerID: 313670   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 18:45

Gazal Champion replied:

Hi Evosheas,

Apparently it is illegal to run a anything in a caravan on gas while you are driving. I assume then that the same would apply to inside a car.

Neighbours son is a cop and he said that when they pull a van over the first thing he checks is to see if the gas is turned on!

Out comes the book if it is.

regards,
Gazal
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FollowupID: 579729   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 19:17

Member - Bill F (VIC) posted:

Hi Gazal

What would your Neighbours son book them for as I don't know any statute or regulation that is covered for having a flame in a moving vehicle or towed or connected vehicle (eg fifth wheeler)

What State or Territory are you referring to

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FollowupID: 579975   Submitted: Saturday, Jul 05, 2008 at 00:26

ross posted:

Gazal is correct.It is an offence to run a gas flame whilst on the road.
I think you will find it is Australia wide and definately in WA.
The foodvans that had gas powered food warmers are also banned.
I dont know what the rule is but I imagine it would be Australia wide as most rules are these days.

I bet the insurance company wouldnt cover you either;)
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AnswerID: 313673   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 18:55

kiwicol replied:

Totally agree with Troll, take the time to look at a Danfoss compressor fridge, 12- 240 volt, but also look at the insulation on the brand as this affects how long your batteries will last running these fridges. col
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AnswerID: 313692   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 20:06

ozwasp replied:

Hi

Three way fridges are good, but as mentioned can be a health hazard and fire risk if in operation in a vehicle.

I've got both a Chescold and an Engel, but if I had to chose one to keep, it would be the Engel. While the Chescolds have the convience of gas operation, Engels draw very little power during operation - so you can run them for a couple of days without flattening your battery.

I'd only really recommend 3 way fridges if you are set up in an unpowered camp for more than 1 week, or if you can get a 2nd hand 3 way dirt cheap (less than $200). If you do get a 3 way fridge, get a Chescold/Electrolux (even the old ones), as the other brands just don't have the cooling power.

For conveniece, reliabilty and low power draw, Engel is the way to go.

Will
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FollowupID: 579764   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 20:13

ozwasp posted:

Choose convenience and reliability
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AnswerID: 313741   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2008 at 23:06

Member - Brian H (QLD) replied:

Hi,

I would not entertain the idea of running a fridge on gas inside a vehicle, the risks are to high and if things go pear shaped it will not be pleasant.

I have an old chestcold and from the service person he indicated it _Affordable_Storage_Drawers.aspx 12 amp an hour, it chews battery's and does not run as well. I agree about if staying in one location and take out place on level base and run on gas it will run 24/7 for approximately 28 days on 9kg's cylinder.

Mine is showing its age about 30 years I believe and its hard to set so everything does not freeze. I also had enough on my last trip about taking it in and out of the ute each night to run on gas so now have a trailblazer on a dual battery set up.

Not sure about 24 volts mine just states 12 volts for battery power.

Brian
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FollowupID: 579831   Submitted: Friday, Jul 04, 2008 at 08:20

evosheas posted:

Thanks Brian, yeah initially i was thinking about a three way fridge, but then the thought of taking it in and out of the vehicle every night to run on gas seemed to defeat the idea. I think i will explore the compressor type fridge option a little more so that i can leave it in the vehicle mostly permanently. Saves me cutting a hole in the bus to vent it as well.
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FollowupID: 579976   Submitted: Saturday, Jul 05, 2008 at 00:29

ross posted:

The 12v compressor firdges are so good these days,the gas fridges are becoming obsolete(ackowedging the fact they are great for extended stays)
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