AnswerID: 324062 Submitted: Friday, Sep 05, 2008 at 22:54
Member - Olcoolone (S.A) The O
From the RACQ web site.
"What is LPG fuel?
Liquefied petroleum gas (LP gas or LPG) is a hydrocarbon fuel comprising propane, butane or propylene, either separately or as a mixture of any of them. Automotive LPG is not the same as the LPG used in BBQ bottles.
The quality of LPG for automotive use is controlled to ensure consistent vehicle performance under all driving conditions. The gas is liquefied under moderate pressure; when allowed to revert to vapour it expands 270 times its liquid volume.
This enables LPG to be stored as a compact liquid but burnt as a dry gaseous vapour. LPG is non-toxic, non-corrosive, free of lead and heavier than air. It is produced by refinery fractionation of oil or is stripped from naturally occurring Natural Gas.
From the Supagas web site.
Is LP Gas used to fuel motor vehicles?
Yes, LP Gas is used to fuel motor vehicles, however a combination of propane and butane (also known as blend) is used. It's different to heating gas and BBQ gas, which is straight propane.
Can I use propane in my car?
Yes, you can use propane in your car, however most places
don't sell straight propane because it's slightly more expensive than blend (propane/butane mix). It's thought that straight propane is better for your car (in both environmental and in performance terms) and our Somerton branch on Hume Highway happens to sell straight Propane so next time you're going past - pull in, fill up and you be the judge.
What is the mix in blend?
The mix in blend is a combination of propane and butane normally around 50/50. Blend is commonly used for forklifts and motor vehicles. The exact percentage varies all the time and is available on request. Phone our Dandenong Branch on (30) 9706 6262 to find out more.
From the Autogas web site.
What is LPG Autogas?
LPG stands for Liquefied Petroleum Gas and is the generic name used for mixtures of hydrocarbons (mainly propane and butane). When these mixtures are lightly compressed (approx.800 kPa or 120 psi) they change from a gaseous state to a liquid.
LPG is colourless, odourless and heavier than air. A chemical is added to give it a smell like rotten cabbage, so that even a very small leak can be easily detected. LPG burns readily in air and has an energy content similar to petrol, which makes it an excellent fuel for heating, cooking and for automotive use.
Automotive use LPG is quite often called Autogas (or LPG Autogas) and is specifically designed for use in a vehicle. LPG Autogas can contain both propane and butane with the specification (or blend) governed by the requirements of the National Fuel Quality Standards Act 2000 and the Autogas Determination 2003.
Is LPG Autogas different to LPG used in a BBQ?
YES. There are two different grades or blends of LPG and they are not interchangeable. LPG Autogas is for automotive use only and will be a mixture of propane and butane. The other blend is propane, which can only be used for decanting into cylinders for barbecues, camping, caravanning and household use.
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FollowupID: 591105 Submitted:
Friday, Sep 05, 2008 at 23:17
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FollowupID: 591111 Submitted:
Saturday, Sep 06, 2008 at 01:14
"From the Autogas website"
Ha ha ha ah ha ha ha ha I wish they would tell the local servo in my town that has "auto gas" and also fills bbq bottles et al.
All the gas that fills both comes from the same tank on the tanker it is the same gas so the above is a crock of you know what the whole gas supply chain is a closed club of lies and deceit to look after the marketers and protect them from competition and is a fraud on the public
See if you can get them to tell you if the two gases are mixed or used separately or are substituted for each other in domestic or automotive applications.
You wont get a straight answer, I couldn't
The big boys only like competition when they are sticking it to the little guy but look close they don't like it applied to them.
Just look at the Northwest shelf gas partner's
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FollowupID: 591129 Submitted:
Saturday, Sep 06, 2008 at 08:53
Member - Olcoolone (S.A) The O posted:
Well if these three companys are wrong then the ACCC should be notified....big fines for advertising incorrect and mis leading information to the consumer if your a provider of the said product.
Unless they are right!
Yeap always trust EO to supply the correct information.
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FollowupID: 591137 Submitted:
Saturday, Sep 06, 2008 at 09:41
Umm remember it is them and their mates who make the rules so they rarely get busted for breaking them, the rules are for keeping us in line not them.
If big fines were levied for missleading the consumer most of the large companies would be broke
If you don't believe the info on lp gas just email the relevant organizations and ask but make sure your questions are iron tight because you will get a pollies answer.
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