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What tyre pressure.???

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 04, 2009 at 14:25

Bruce n Sal

Hi Guys,

Just got back from a fantastic camping/4wding trip over the Melbourne cup weekend (thanks to Robin Miller, big thanks to you for the recommendation).

When we left i noticed alot of the vehicles we had seen over the course of the weekend re-inflating their tyres. What pressure would they be using for climbing hills in very dry conditions. Does it depend on the type of track? I would assume they would not be as deflated as say for sand.!!!

Thanks

Bruce


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AnswerID: 389977   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 04, 2009 at 14:54

ajd replied:


Just got back from 3 days in the high country around Dargo/Bright.

I lowered my tyre pressure when offroad down to 25 PSI not just for better traction but for comfort as well.

Cheers.

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FollowupID: 657709   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 04, 2009 at 15:07

Bruce n Sal posted:

Gday Ajd,

Thanks that's where I was also in Talbotville.!!!

Amazing place up there havent' really done much 4wding up there was my first time, i didn't do many of the tracks wasn't quit sure the car would have handled it with my basic tyres and experience, but doing a few in a mates Hilux I reckon i could have done them too.

Bruce
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FollowupID: 657710   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 04, 2009 at 15:10

ajd posted:


Drove through Talbotville, I bet you weren't lonely.

Great weather though.

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FollowupID: 657711   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 04, 2009 at 15:18

Bruce n Sal posted:

No we weren't, great place tough, would have found a less busy spot but couldn't cross too many of the river crossing due to trailer height (didn't want a wet tent) and no snorkel on the car (yet!!).

The only problem was it rained setting up and rained packing up.
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AnswerID: 389990   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 04, 2009 at 17:11

gbc replied:

I've never been to the Vic High country, but in traprock (ranges around Stanthorpe), and other range areas we always go to 25lb or less. I've seen brand new tyres chipped to almost useless after a single day with the wrong pressures - did it myself at Mt Mee and learned the hard (read: expensive) way.
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AnswerID: 389996   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 04, 2009 at 18:03

Member - Duncs replied:

Bruce,

When it comes to tyre pressures I have a simple formulae that guides, but does not dictate, my tyre pressure choice.

I call it the 25% rule.

I generally start on the highway at around 40psi. When the road turns to dirt I drop the pressure by 25%, that comes out at about 32psi. When the road quality again deteriorates, say turning onto a fire trail I drop by another 25%, I am now down to 24psi. The next step, as I see it is when I go onto soft sand. Once again I drop pressures by 25% that takes me to about 18psi.

Using my system in the high country I would consider that fire trails so I would be running about 24psi

Remember I said this system guides but does not dictate. I would see how it feels and then go up or down depending on how things were going.

It works for me.

Duncs
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FollowupID: 657759   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 04, 2009 at 18:39

Richard Kovac posted:

Duncs

Thats a very easy and good way to remember it, and by the figures looks like it works out fine.

Cheers

Richard
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FollowupID: 657760   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 04, 2009 at 19:00

Member Brian (Gold Coast) posted:

Yeah, I'd go with that too Duncs..... a quite useful formula.

Cheers

Brian



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FollowupID: 657814   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 05, 2009 at 07:54

Bruce n Sal posted:

Thanks Duncs,

I will give it a go next time I go out.

Bruce
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FollowupID: 657834   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 05, 2009 at 11:18

Tony posted:

HI Duncs
We are pretty new to 4wdriving, just wondered what type of track conditions you mean by fire trail?

We recently went out in a friends car (prado) to the pipeline track near mundaring, perth. that was really rocky with big boulders, pit holes and corrgations etc. what would you run the tyres at for something like that. He didnt lower the tyre pressures.

Cheers
Tony
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FollowupID: 657855   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 05, 2009 at 15:12

Member - Duncs posted:

Tony,

That would fall into my fire trail definition. I developed my system over a few years doing most of my off road work on the east coast near Sydney. Blue Mountains, Nowra, Stockton and a the like.

My favourite track was down into Deep Pass, National Parks have closed it now. It used to take me 20 min to walk and 45 to drive. Big steps, funny angles and lots of sandstone.

I find much under 24psi on that sort of stuff is to soft and you risk breaking a bead. 24 lets the tyre wrap around the rocks etc giving better grip and reducing the risk of punctures.

Duncs
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FollowupID: 657856   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 05, 2009 at 15:19

Member - Duncs posted:

Should have mentioned, when you drop tyre pressures drop your speed as well.

Remeber you lowered your tyre pressures because the road conditions dictate that. That should also have an impact on your speed

While at 32psi you can probably travel at highway speeds you certainly can't at 24psi. If you don't slow down the tyres will overheat and that can cause a whole bunch of other problems.

Duncs
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FollowupID: 658000   Submitted: Friday, Nov 06, 2009 at 13:22

Tony posted:

Thakns Duncs, Much appreciated
Tony
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AnswerID: 390079   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 05, 2009 at 13:16

Member - Rodney B replied:

Hi Bruce,
Also did the high country at the weekend (around McKillops Bridge-Deddick track etc..) and I set the pressure on my 80 series cruiser at 22 psi once off the Bitumen. Gives great ride in the rough, good traction with my Bridgestone A/Ts, no punctures or chipping. Used to believe that 40 psi worked for everything years ago but now I drop my pressures as soon as we get off the bitumen. I think that 25% rule is a good indicator as well and will try that in future.

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FollowupID: 658010   Submitted: Friday, Nov 06, 2009 at 14:33

Bruce n Sal posted:

Thanks for all the responses,

Think I can add a compressor to my ever growing list, trick is now how to convince the wife to let me spend the money :)

One trip is about to cost me alot of money, we need UHF, Snorkel & now Compressor and the list goes on.

Bruce & Salli
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