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Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 07:36

Member - Doug T (NT)

DC-3 C/n 9583 VH-MMA Landing at WW2 Coomalie Airstrip
DC-3 C/n 9583 VH-MMA Landing at WW2 Coomalie Airstrip

Up close , and smell the fumes
Up close , and smell the fumes

The DC3 was the world’s most successful commercial aircraft with 10,928 examples being built. Australia's first DC-3 arrived in September 1937 for service with Australian National Airways, and was joined by a further 3 by the end of 1938.By December 1941 when the USA entered the war, 500 DC-3's had been built and a further 369 were on order.The C47 Military version had large cargo doors, strengthened metal floor and tie down points, Pratt and Whitney twin row 1830 engines, stronger landing gear and a glider towing cleat, and first flew in January 1942, with an eventual 9,500 being built. C47/Dakota's served in every allied air force, including the RAAF, which operated 124 lend-lease Dakota's (C47's) under its "A65-" number series and recently retired its last examples after 60 years of service.Many C47's were converted back to "DC-3" passenger airliners following world war two, with former USAAC and RAAF aircraft entering Australian domestic airline service with ANA and TAA, following re-fittment with seats and passenger doors.Over 200 different civil registrations were carried by DC-3 aircraft serving with more than 40 operators in Australia post war, with 41 being operated by Ansett-ANA, over 30 flying with TAA, and 5 serving with Qantas. In July 1946, one was purchased by Australian National Airways, registered as VH-ANH and given the name “Tullana", and as part of their C47 conversion program, was changed from right to left hand passenger door . When ANA was taken over by Ansett in 1957 the aircraft remained with the company, flying with Ansett subsidiary, Airlines of New South Wales. In 1970 the aircraft was retired, having flown a total of 45,030 hours. On the 27th of August 1972 VH-ANH made it’s last flight to Moorabbin Airport to join the Museum collection, initially being leased to the Museum for $1.00. The DC3 has since been donated to the Museum.
VH-ANH
VH-ANH

Engines: (DC3) 2x 1100HP Wright GR-1820-85 Cyclones (C-47) 2x 1200HP Pratt & Whitney R1830-92 Twin Wasps as is the one at Coomalie Airstrip today. The DC-3 in my photo’s is owned by John Hardy Aviation in Darwin. If any members are in the region get yourselves to Coomalie today and check it out, I can remember many years ago we all seen these planes but only at a distance, At Coomalie Airstrip you watch it land and take-off right up close on the edge of the airstrip, feel the wind and smell the fumes.
Interior of VH-MMA toward the Cockpit
Interior of VH-MMA toward the Cockpit

The Cockpit of VH-MMA
The Cockpit of VH-MMA

A Piper landing,
A Piper landing,

The photo of the Piper landing was a surprise for me when I got home and loaded the photo's to the PC , I didn't realise I had it right above the DC-3 , the photo is one of a series of constant photo's taken by my Nikon D-60.

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AnswerID: 426582   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 07:49

Member - Patrick (QLD) replied:

Hi Doug,

Did you have a sleep in this morning?

I have been waiting since 5.30am to read your Sunday History page. I was relieved to see it come up as I don't like missing this weekly highlight.

Another good read.

Where do you get your ideas/information from.

Patrick

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AnswerID: 426583   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:21

PradoMad replied:

Always like to read it, please keep it up.
JS.
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AnswerID: 426586   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:30

Allan B, Sunshine Coast, replied:

Ah yes Doug, in 1954 I was flying weekly between Adelaide and Woomera in a Dakota, and sometimes a Bristol Freighter both operated by the RAAF. The Dakotas
were military rigged with bench webbing seats along each side, not the most comfortable but they seemed to handle the inevitable air turbulence better than the Bristols.

Ah, those were the days.

Thanks again Doug. Cheers mate.
Allan

Cheers
Allan

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AnswerID: 426588   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 09:00

blue one replied:

Hey Doug,
They are still being used in Canada and Antarctica. Here is one set up with Basler Radar at McMurdo Station Antarctica. She has had many refits and upgrades though her bones are the same.

Cheers

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AnswerID: 426590   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 09:22

Member - Doug T (NT) replied:

Just uploaded the landing to You-Tube



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FollowupID: 697150   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 09:49

Fred G NSW posted:

The unmistakable sound of the DC3...sensational. The only plane I've been in where the wings actually "flap" :-)

I've sent you an email that may have some interesting content for you Doug.

Great post mate, which I'm sure will stir many members memories.

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AnswerID: 426598   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 10:14

Member - bungarra (WA) replied:

Thanks Doug.

I always look forward to your Sunday posts........in fact all your posts have value

Cheers
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AnswerID: 426599   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 10:21

Fred G NSW replied:

If you haven't been up close to one of these, anyone passing through Longreach shouldn't miss the opportunity to have a look at this one at the Quantas museum.
DC3 at Longreach
DC3 at Longreach
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FollowupID: 697160   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 11:22

Member - Doug T (NT) posted:

The plane was sold by John Williams VH-BPL to Warwick Allen. The aeroplane had been relocated within Hoxton Park Aerodrome and in early January 2004 it was suppose be transported by road to Orange, NSW where it was to be painted in Qantas colours and mounted on a turntable to act as a weathervane. The Orange City Council was assisting the project.

Evidently, the deal to relocate VH-BPL to Orange had fallen through, as it has was announced that the aeroplane has been acquired by the Qantas Founders Outback Museum in Longreach. This aeroplane was formerly VH-EAP and VH-EBY with Qantas, so it will make a fine companion for Boeing 747-238B VH-EBQ. The aeroplane was actually donated to the QFOM by John D. Williams on 20th February 2004. Indications are that the aeroplane will be trucked from Hoxton Park to Longreach. Good result!
The aircraft arrived at Longreach by road at last light on 03MAR05. By 06MAR05, both wings and one engine had been fitted and paint stripping begun. The aircraft was painted in Qantas Empire Airways markings as VH-EAP in JUN07.

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AnswerID: 426600   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 10:44

Member - Rob Mac (QLD) replied:

Morning Doug, it is a good old plane, I flew in that one in WA in the 60's and have done a few parachute jumps out of her at Darwin,Batchelor and MKT strip at Noonamah. Radial engines always sound great.
Cheers Rob Mac
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AnswerID: 426606   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 11:31

Gone Bush (WA) replied:

I was in PNG between 1974 and 1979 and flew in a couple of DC3s through the mountain passes. The pilots really worked hard, pumping levers all over the place.


By the way, one other claim the DC3 can make:

It is the World's FIRST aircraft with SWEPT BACK WINGS.

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FollowupID: 697253   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 21:50

Madfisher posted:

Gb my Dad was a digger in PNG during ww2. He claimed he was in a DC3 that flew backwards (very strong headwind) in one ofv those passes.
Cheers Pete
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FollowupID: 697259   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 22:09

Gone Bush (WA) posted:

Hullo Pete,

in the 4 years we were up there I spent quite a few days off exploring WW2 sites. It was fascinating.

Australia really came close.

Crashed Betty Bomber
Crashed "Betty" Bomber


Another One
Another One


The Intrepid Explorer
The Intrepid Explorer


cheers

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FollowupID: 697315   Submitted: Monday, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:33

OREJAP posted:

The "Betty" bomber made by Mitsubishi.....planes that bombed Australia during the war. My Dad (GRHS) fought in New Guinea against the Japs & loved the sound of the DC 3's flown over their positions & dropped supplys like food, ammo & Chesterfield Cigarettes.
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AnswerID: 426636   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 17:59

Member - MUZBRY(Vic) replied:

Gday Doug
I remember flying from Darwin to Munmalary a few times in 1968 in a DC3.
As the only passenger, I had my very own air hostess for the first trip, and then I was on my own for the other trips .

Murray
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AnswerID: 426655   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 19:40

Member - DAZA (QLD) replied:

G/Day Doug

Thanks for the memories mate, I flew in a few in the mid Sixties out Western Qld, I remember one trip, I had a window seat just opposite the Starboard Engine and half way through the flight we noticed oil hemorrhaging out of the top of the engine cowling, when the Hostie walked past I mentioned it to her and she said oh nothing to worry about, anyway when we landed in Roma a announcement came over the loud speaker at the terminal that there would be a delay for a short period while some minor maintenance was carried out, next thing there was a scaffold type of thing dragged out to the plane and and a couple of blokes and the Flight Engineer or Pilot were looking at the problem, about an hour later it took off again, yeh Doug the good old days lol lol.

Cheers
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AnswerID: 426668   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 20:40

Skippype replied:

I worked in North Africa for years in the 70's and we flew to and from work in the Sahara desert in them. We'd land on a best flat stretch of sand that we could find. Taxi to the camp & have lunch then the crew going home would climb aboard and away they would go..... Great memories...
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AnswerID: 426683   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 21:41

Member - Boeing (PER) replied:

Thanks Doug, it is a true sweet sound. My first ever flight was on a DC3 to Rottnest with MMA when I was 8. Took longer to get to the airport than the flight. They don't make them like that.

Regards

Mark
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FollowupID: 697250   Submitted: Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 21:42

Member - Boeing (PER) posted:

They don't make them like that..... any more
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