AnswerID: 451946 Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 22:23
Muntoo
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Hi Dennis, i think if i was you i would get all the facts straight before posting this.
The owners of
Port Smith have known about this for ages, and continue to tell lies. I dont agree with the violence or anything like that, but i will respect another persons request to not visit an area that has some significance to it. Just like i wouldnt walk over someones grave or piss on a church. Obviously in no way was this man being abusive to you, and in no was he lying either. He was simply letting you know what the go was.
It seems this thread has shown up nothing but racist remarks, which is nothing suprising for this site.
Have read of what these Rangers groups do, and what they achieve. They do more for the conservation and preservation of this country then you ever have. Yet you think you can just show up and go where you like and do what you like. If it was a sign saying Keep off the dunes for rehabilitation, you would, but obviously you wouldnt keep out of an area that read, Protected Aboriginal Area, to protect an area that has been used for 1000s of years. Why is this?
Ranger Groups
Of course the owners of
Port smith know everything.
Claim Map
If you look at the map you will find that Native Title exists over
Port Smith, and also i think you will find that it has existed for many years, not just till recently as you stated.
Port Smith management know all about these areas and the native title, yet continue to turn a blind eye to it for the sake of money.
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Kimberley Ranger Initiative - Karajarri Indigenous positions Working on Country
The Karajarri lands lie 200 kms south of
Broome and include 130kms of coastline. Stretching from Gordon Bay to Cape Missiessy this coastal strip also includes the northern 20kms of the
Eighty Mile Beach, which is listed under the RAMSAR Convention because of the important habitat it provides for migratory shorebirds.
The rangers' environmental work will focus on coastal management issues to reduce the impacts on the region's natural and cultural values through the management of visitors.
By incorporating western survey techniques with traditional ecological knowledge, the rangers will undertake baseline biodiversity surveys with the assistance of specialists, and develop ongoing monitoring programs. This will allow rangers to gauge the results of their land management work to manage weeds, feral animals and wildfires.
Many Working on Country projects cover vast areas of land along with rivers, estuaries and coastlines. The integration of the Indigenous peoples' traditional knowledge of country is pivotal to the success of land management outcomes through Working on Country.
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FollowupID: 724581 Submitted:
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 07:48
Robin Miller posted:
I think a point here Muntoo is that these areas have significance to more than one group of people and that what we have to do is be inclusive and try and make reasonable provision for all.
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FollowupID: 724599 Submitted:
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:55
Dennis Ellery posted:
Munto we must all obey Australian Law.
As far as I can see the Karajarri Rangers are self appointed and have no authority over the general public.
Where I go and what I do is controlled by Australian law. If the Karajarri Rangers consider me to be trespassing, their right is to call the police and have me charged with trespass. These fishermen from the Bidyadanga Community should have been reported to the police if they were doing something illegal. Beating them with clubs and spears may be legal under Karragarra law but not under Australian law, as the court decided.
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FollowupID: 724604 Submitted:
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:41
The Landy posted:
And yet, take a look at the Lake
Eyre issue and the couple of threads appearing on here over the past week. Those accessing it via a boat without a permit are breaking the law, the traditional landowner’s have called for police intervention this Easter, and there is an uproar from many on this
forum that this is a waste of police resources. And maybe it is...
Now, I’m not advocating they take the law into their own hands, but see how inconsistent and slanted the whole aboriginal issue in
Australia becomes. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
But I’m assuming you would support the course of action the Lake
Eyre traditional owners are taking this weekend in calling for police intervention? After all one law for all...
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FollowupID: 724609 Submitted:
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:21
Dennis Ellery posted:
As far as I’m concerned there is no place in
Australia for different laws being applied depending on your race, religion or colour.
It’s yours and their right to report any breaches of Australian Law to the authorities.
About 50 years ago I met an old fella in the Northwest who was jailed for taking a 14 year old bride.
This was legal by his law – but not by Australian Law
Also Sharia Law is advocated by some members of our community – many of their practices the majority of Australians would find abhorrent.
I agree one law for all - no exceptions
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