Navman or TomTom

I am about to get a new GPS unit.
Navman or TomTom [top of the range for both].
Any experiences with either?
Thank you.
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Reply By: Member - Paul M (TAS) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 08:44

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 08:44
Have you seen this one?
http://www.hemanavigator.com.au/

This unit has a lot going for it and great back up service too. The guys at Toyota Landcruiser Club - NSW give it a good review.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 09:10

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 09:10
Hi Gary

Have you also considered the Garmin range of Nuvi units ?. They are very user friendly and I think a better unit.

Just my thoughts.


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Follow Up By: Andrew & Jen - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:09

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:09
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For street navigating, they (the Nuvi) are v good. And they have an amazing number of tracks as well when you use the more detail setting - not that I use it off road other than keeping stats.
Off road, I use a Seeka 7" from the map Shop in Adelaide
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Follow Up By: DesF - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 14:13

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 14:13
Have to agree with Stephen, I have a Tom Tom , Mate has a Navman ,we now both have Garmin
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Much better in our opinion, also easier with Mapsource on PC.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 14:16

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 14:16
Hi Gary

Another point that I should have also pointed out is that on various 1000, 2000 and 3000 series units purchased before the end of January 2012, lifetime map upgrades are include when you register the unit with Garmin.

This is very good value, considering that the lifetime upgrade is available for around $180 and you can buy the cheaper 1000 series unit cheaper than the price of the upgrade price, which makes it very good value.

Check out the web site:


Garmin Lifetime Upgrade Offer



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Reply By: Member - Royce- Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 09:40

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 09:40
They're getting cheaper all the time....buy both. Handball the one you like least to someone as a Christmas present!
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Reply By: landseka - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:02

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:02
I had a TomTom 710, which was good. My only criticism was the design of the windscreen mount.

I recently updated to a Garmin 1490T and couldn't be happier.

Neither of these is a "top of the line" model as the only thing that the 'top' models do the that mine doesn't is store & play mp3's and I have better ways to play music.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:29

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:29
Ditto that regarding the top of the line models being for non navigational extras.
I have a TomTom, which I find fantastic for capital city navigation and easily downloaded maps for New Zealand when we went there. I find it would sometimes get confused on some of the tracks to properties in western NSW (many of these public roads weren't marked on detailed NRMA maps though).

I've used Garmin often in Avis hire cars, find them less user friendly for city navigation. Not used Navman.
Both fantastic for street navigation, but for open roads nothing beats good paper maps.
For the money you are about to layout why don't you join Choice and review their articles which are normally well researched and involve detailed side by side comparisons.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:59

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:59
No experience with a Navman, but I have had a TomTom Go 720 for about 5 years or so now. An excellent unit for voice controlled city navigation and easy updated via TomTom Home, which is a free application for a Laptop or PC. If all you require is city navigation, the TomTom is hard to beat.
I also have a Hema Navigator for use off-road/country driving and will state that no one device is likely to give you an all encompassing solution.

I don't know of any of the current devices that will allow concurrent applications to run side by side, using the input from a GPS chip.
If you wish to run one application, the other will be disabled or must be closed first.
Thus I use two devices.
I have the Navigator running all the time to track my route and if I need guidance through, or around a major town or city, I use TomTom.

I used to use a device that gave the best of both worlds, concurrently.
I have a Dell PDA running OziExplorer and CoPilot Live. You could run both applications concurrently and flip between the two. (or more if you wish)
This was achieved by an ingenious application called GPSGate which allowed multiple virtual input ports from the GPS.
The only hassles I had was that the PDA did not have a built-in GPS and I needed to use a bluetooth connected GPS. This worked OK but required an additional 12 volt feed to run both devices for prolonged periods.
Secondly, the PDA gave only a small screen display and my eyes were not as good as they once was.

In my opinion, nothing beats the Hema Navigator (or cheap chinese knockoff) running OziExplorer and using the Hema range of maps, for a reasonable and convenient size solution. The Hema also has voice guided city navigation.
My Hema (one of the original models) came with Route 66 for city navigation and basically, it sucked. The current Hema now comes with iGo street navigation which may be better, (I haven't experienced it) but as mentioned above, you can only run one application at a time and this is still the downfall of virtually all GPS devices.

PS. Just to complicate things a little, if you have an iPhone, or Android enabled smart phone, you can buy an app that will give very good voice guided city navigation. I have CoPilot Premium running on my iPhone and it is quite good. It can be purchased from the Apple Store for $29.95 (at least that is what I paid) and it is comparable to the older CoPilot Live 7 I used on the PDA.
CoPilot is the best alternative I have experienced to TomTom.

I still tend to use TomTom, with the iPhone enabled CoPilot Premium as a worthy "backup", or on occasions when I have not got TomTom with me.

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Follow Up By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:33

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:33
I have been using Igo and its great.
See my post below.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Sunday, Dec 25, 2011 at 10:16

Sunday, Dec 25, 2011 at 10:16
Franson GPS Gate will allow you to run two or more applications from the one gps signal. I've been using it with Copilot and Oziexplorer on my Asus GPS PDA for about 6 years now and it allows you to keep both programs running and just toggle between them.
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Reply By: Fatso - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 11:22

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 11:22
Thinking about buying some new Nav equipment myself.
We are off down the coast from Cairns to hopefully as far as the West Coast of SA, leaving in January for 3 months. Wanna take in the Alps as well. We haven't been down the NSW, Vic or SA coasts for well over 25 years. We've never been to the Alps though.
I was thinking of buying one of those Hema Eastern Australia maps. You know, the fancy new waterproof one.
They are about $12 I think.
Camps 6 has got enough detail on its maps to get us around with no worries. It's just that I like to see the big picture laid out on one page. Puts things into perspective.
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Reply By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:32

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:32
I have one of these.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/130554618343#ht_7556wt_1187

I first bought the 5 inch one then upgraded to the 7 inch one. $83.00 posted to my door. It has Igo road mapping on it which is great.
I run 2 SD cards.
One with the Igo streets on it and when I go bush I put an 8gb SD card in it that has Aussie Explorer CE and all my NSW and VIC LPI topo maps and hema maps loaded on it.
The 5 inch worked well but the 7 inch screen is even better and for the price you can't beat it.

Scott
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Reply By: PeterInSa - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 13:44

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 13:44
Am not a GPS expert, but understand the CMCA's Point of Interest POI, ie Dump points, Rests areas, etc etc can only be downloaded to Tom Tom and Garmin not sure about Camps 6 Rest areas etc.

If these are important to you, You need to do some further research to confirm the above.

We personally use the Camps book and the Hardcopy CMCA Camps/Dump points Book and do not use POI's on our TT and other GPS's.

Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony (ACT) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 15:49

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 15:49
We have the Garmin with Camp 6 POI as well as topo maps, which have as good as detail as any, for 4WD tracks
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 14:38

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 14:38
I can only speak for Tomtom, but we've had 5 in the family now and all have worked well. We've paid between $99 and $150 for them - usually get them at Dick Smiths on special. Main downside is they usually do not include map updates and then try to slug you $50-80 for an updated map. Their recent offers may be different.

You can download a freeware program called TTMAPs which allows the Tomtom to read .ecw maps. So I use it as a backup for my computer mapping and it works great. I use it for the Natmap 250k, Flinders Ranges 50k and some older Hema maps I have.TTMAPs link
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (WA) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 16:32

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 16:32
I have had 2 x Garmin Nuvi's...very good units, easy operation and excellent online updates and support

Hired a car a few months back and they gave me a Navman to to get around the joint. I found the unit was difficult to navigate compared to the Nuvi amongst other stuff.

I haven't ever tried a TomTom.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 17:25

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 17:25
Niether, don't waste your money, Garmin is far better and the Nuvi range will have one to suit your needs, secondly don't get it from the big stores, go to a specialist and get the free lifetime map updates and the latest POI warnings, ie redlights Cams, Schools etc.

For example try this LINK

And for the Map updates, if your careful and read things properly you can have the Mapsource installed to the PC at the same time the GPS gets the update.

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Reply By: Bravo Man - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 17:27

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 17:27
Hi Gary.

I have a garmin nuvi 1490 with OZ and NZ topo map. Easy to use in the city or in the bush it worked well all over Aust with the topo maps ,BUT it has been replaced under warranty twice in 2 years, first time it kept turning off and rebooting itself.Second time it was doing it worse.Seems to be a common problem with the Nuvi model,how common I don't know.The current one I have had for 6 mths and had no problems.

Maybe a good idea to Google dfferent units and see what turns up. I have seen some web sites on the Garmin reboot problem.

Regards Peter
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Reply By: garytee - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 20:22

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 20:22
Thank you to all who contributed.
Even more information to evaluate.

Happy Christmas to all.
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Reply By: P2D2 - Monday, Dec 26, 2011 at 14:44

Monday, Dec 26, 2011 at 14:44
If you want to have the ability to load Waypoints, download and upload Tracks and Routes to a GPS with OziExplorer one of the few units that will is the Garmin Nuvi 1450T.
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=134&pID=63932
or the
Garmin Nuvi 1490T
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=134&pID=36082
Other units may do one or the other or none, but the 1450T and 1490T do all.

Both available on the Garmin Lifetime Free Map Updates if purchased until 31 January 2012. Final claims close 15 February 2012
http://www.garminredemption.com/
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