AnswerID: 485507 Submitted: Friday, May 11, 2012 at 08:25
Member - Stephen L (Clare SA)
Firstly I would if possible leave the campers behind, but if there is no way around it, this is the way that I would do, bearing in mind that there will be some dunes that you will not get over first try.
The easiest way without question is a west to east drive, purely the nature and shape of the dunes.
The way that has the least number of steep dunes to cross is from Wonga Junction, head south and follow the Rig Road. Once out at the KI Line, it is a very easy, no dunes to cross drive up the swales almost through to Poeppel Corner
- I said almost.
If you want to head into the Corner, you will have to head west and cross a number of still smaller dunes before the final turn off to Poeppel Corner
. Up until this point, the drive should have been no real dramas, but to get through from here, tyre pressures will be critical and to put it bluntly, wrong pressures and you will never get over the dunes.
Regardless of experience, tyre pressure is most important and I would not go any HIGHER than 14psi on the vehicles and 12 psi on the campers. The bigger dunes will come soon and once you start on the QAA, the dunes will instantly double in size, but the distance between the swales will increase greatly.
Your best friends out there will be a long handled shovel, and a couple of sets of MaxTraks. Allow around 4 days to cross and do not go any higher with tyre pressures and if possible even lower. You are only travelling slow, and the only way that you will roll a tyre from a rim, is going fast and making a very hard sharp turn.
We have travelled the Simpson countless times and driven correctly, it is a very easy and enjoyable drive.
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FollowupID: 760794 Submitted:
Friday, May 11, 2012 at 11:53
Great Divide Tours posted:
For what it is worth I agree with the post by Stephen, if going soon though be aware that the K1 line could be heavily overgrown still. When I crossed the Desert in March 2012 there was a lot of growth along the QAA and French Lines, no doubt being knocked down now but it will still leave some pinstriping. Jeff at Mt Dare might have some info that is current on the K1 line. SA Parks don't want trailers in the Desert, they ban tour operators from taking them because we have to be licensed and they can dictate to us whatever they wish. At this stage they don't ban the general public from towing trailers just suggest they not be taken. Be aware that this year there is no wood collection in Witjara NP and from next year no campfires permitted in Witjara NP, it will be a cold night for camping when that occurs.
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FollowupID: 760834 Submitted:
Friday, May 11, 2012 at 20:23
Thanks for the info guys,
The Simpson crossing is part of a 3 week trip so not possible to leave and double back, we are still not locked in though to east/west or west/east hence the post and seeking of info. Your info has Been helpful, thanks.
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FollowupID: 760857 Submitted:
Saturday, May 12, 2012 at 08:56
David, the west - east crossing is definitely the go for those towing trailers across the Simpson, & even then some get into strife! I had to sell my new Treg Hitch to someone who broke
theirs towing a trailer across a couple of weeks ago!
The Rig road is the recommended way for trailers but it is deteriorating badly in places
, so expect a bumpy ride, I haven't heard from anyone going down the K1 line yet but I would stay away from the eastern end of the rig road due to the big dunes out there & the Warburton crossing
will be closed indefinitely anyway.
The WAA line is quite overgrown & difficult in places
& the lake at the eastern end is an unknown factor tho it should be dry by now.
Solo vehicles or groups where both vehicles are towing trailers are the most prone to having difficulties, I usually recommend that at least one vehicle in any group doesn't tow a trailer, that way it can help if anyone does get into trouble.
|Jeff, @ Mt Dare.|
Bad roads don't wreck cars & trailers, bad drivers on bad roads wreck cars & trailers!
Yes we do know how bad the local roads are
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FollowupID: 760888 Submitted:
Saturday, May 12, 2012 at 17:00
snailbait (Blue mntns) posted:
If you look and search the site you will find the answers and the recommendation from a lot of people
Then have a look at the Australian 4WD SITE recomdation
Also have a look the South Australian desert parks and there recommendation
Yes i have been across the simpson and i have done the Warburton crossing
I agree with Jeff from Mt Dare
Also if your vehicle breaks down and the people from Birdsville
have to rescue you it could a lot of $$$$$
Toyota 100 SERIES and 200 Series have busted there front and have had to be towed even with out a camper trailer the last time i went across there were two they were silly and went through the salt lakes and busted the front drive
Again i agree with Jeff
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FollowupID: 760890 Submitted:
Saturday, May 12, 2012 at 18:01
Terry what got up my nose initially was your comments! If you read my initial post I stated that I was after "helpful" info on the easiest way across the Simpson with a camper from someone that has been across, I also stated that we are experienced 4x4 ers and have extremely well set up vehicles, campers and all the recovery gear and knowhow on using it that one would wish for!
What I was wanting to avoid was the usual BS you get from some people on sites
that has nothing to do with the post apart from their opinion and
It is usually negative rubbish.
I have just joined this site for genuine info and not a lecture or tree hugging crap, also the comment on "don't expect help" was out of line in my book! I have helped many people (and will continue to do so) if they are in need, it could be as simple as a shackle or even extra fuel or a tow, you must have had a bad experience or maybe someone drove past you in need or maybe your simply miserable but you know what I would still stop to help you!
Now on the part of campers damaging the sand, well I reckon the vehicle in front of it does of good job of it as well, and the vehicle in front of that with no trailer as well!
I wish to thank all those that posted some very helpful info, it has helped start to decide our route, I also apologize to everyone that is offended by us taking campers especially if we are the only ones this season.
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FollowupID: 760891 Submitted:
Saturday, May 12, 2012 at 18:05
Thanks Jeff for your comments,
Whichever way we go I will be sure to drop in and say hi and make ourselves known.
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FollowupID: 760894 Submitted:
Saturday, May 12, 2012 at 18:18
I must clarify something before I get a negative reaction from someone.
I am extremely aware of how sensitive our environment is and I do respect and look after it when I am able too and realize how fortunate we are to be able to get out amongst it!
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FollowupID: 760906 Submitted:
Saturday, May 12, 2012 at 20:11
dean e posted:
David, you have possibly gathered by now that sadly dribble is the order of the day on this site. The exception Jeff from Mt. Dare and a small handfull of people who have done this particular trip.
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FollowupID: 760909 Submitted:
Saturday, May 12, 2012 at 20:20
Yes so true, but I did get some great info after the smell dissipated!
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