Funny elec problem /Patrol

Submitted: Friday, May 25, 2012 at 15:52

pepper2

If i turn on the headlights the left indicators switch on (constantly on not blinking) without me useing the indicator switch,RHS operates normally.With headlights switched off all works normally.This has only recently occurred.
I would be greatful if anyone can offer any suggestions,Thankyou
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AnswerID: 486768   Submitted: Friday, May 25, 2012 at 16:13

ABR - SIDEWINDER replied:

Sounds like a bad earth, easy fix.

Regards

Derek
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AnswerID: 486772   Submitted: Friday, May 25, 2012 at 16:36

Allan B (Member, SunCoast) replied:

Derek is probably right, but a couple of questions to confirm.

1. Do both front & back turn indicators come on with the headlight?

2. Is the left headlight coming on at reduced power?

If yes to both then it certainly is an earth return connection fault. The left headlight and left front indicator must be sharing the same connection to chassis and this connection is poor. Trace the earth return wire from your left headlight to the point where it connects to the chassis. Remove the connection and clean it then remake the connection firmly. The earth return wire from the headlight may be enclosed within a loom but if you follow the loom a little you may find a wire leaving the loom to connect to chassis.

If all else fails, identify the earth return wire at the headlamp and connect a wire to it, then connect this new wire to a good earth point on the body/chassis.



Cheers
Allan

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FollowupID: 762029   Submitted: Saturday, May 26, 2012 at 09:42

pepper2 posted:

yes both indicators are illuminated,the headlights are both alight and equal
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FollowupID: 762034   Submitted: Saturday, May 26, 2012 at 12:08

Allan B (Member, SunCoast) posted:

Then it doesn't sound like a common earth fault problem. It is more likely an unwanted connection between your headlight circuit and the left indicator circuit.
As others have said look to your combo switch.

If it were a crossover short in the trailer plug as Shaker suggests then the indicators would come on with just the parking lights as well as the headlights as there is no headlight wire in the trailer plug, only parkers.

Cheers
Allan

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AnswerID: 486780   Submitted: Friday, May 25, 2012 at 22:10

Shaker replied:

Check your trailer plug wiring. (If fitted)

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until he has courage to lose sight of the shore.
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FollowupID: 762030   Submitted: Saturday, May 26, 2012 at 09:43

pepper2 posted:

thankyou will check it out
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AnswerID: 486783   Submitted: Friday, May 25, 2012 at 22:32

Witi Repartee replied:

I had a similar problem in my GQ Patrol. Replaced the indicator/light switch...problem solved for a few months, then it reappeared.
Took it to my local Auto Sparky...he also replaced the above switch..but tweaked it slightly. He said to keep the receipt as the switches are notoriously fickle..and I had a years guarantee on the job he did.
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AnswerID: 486785   Submitted: Friday, May 25, 2012 at 23:16

olcoolone replied:

So I take it as a MK... or is it a GU.... maybe a GQ?

Year made or model goes along way to obtaining information.

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FollowupID: 762031   Submitted: Saturday, May 26, 2012 at 09:44

pepper2 posted:

Yes you are correct it is a 2007 GU auto 3 litre
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FollowupID: 762042   Submitted: Saturday, May 26, 2012 at 13:33

olcoolone posted:

More then likely an earth problem. there is a common black wire to your headlights and indicators...... the left side has a separate earth point to the right.

What you can do is get a bit of insulated electrical wire and make contact with the black wire on the headlight globe holder and the negative on the battery.

If your problem disappears then you have to start looking for the earthing problem.

Just to note your left hand indicator should have the following wires:-
Green/yellow +
Black -

And your headlight should have the following wires:-
Red/green Low beam +
Red/blue High beam +
Black Earth

The earth point for the left hand side is the 10mm bolt behind the left hand headlight on the inside guard, the right hand side is the same but on the right hand side.

Hopefully that helped, any other questions just yell....


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AnswerID: 486792   Submitted: Saturday, May 26, 2012 at 04:45

Member - Bucky replied:

That could well be an earthing problem !

Try and locate the main earth, from the battery, remove it and scratch up the metal alll around the bolt and the nut it attatches.

OR

Get another earth strap, that can bolt to the motor, with enough length to allow for flex when the motor torques up, and go directly from the battery's earth, (so you have 2 earths).

OR
Do both

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Bucky
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AnswerID: 486794   Submitted: Saturday, May 26, 2012 at 06:29

Steve D1 replied:

assuming GQ series, combination switch for sure.... very common. Sold hundereds


Steve
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