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Sunday, May 13, 2012 at 19:37

Member - Arsenal Phill

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Well not sure if this is a worthy, or even worthwhile blog. We have gone from being campers, to camper trailer people, to caravanners. We pick up our first van tomorrow.

As we have never had a van before, nor even towed one, I thought it would be an idea to try and document how we found and experienced this transition.

We are off to Mandurah tomorrow morning first thing to collect our van. It has been manufactured over east in Melbourne and delivered to us via their outlet in WA. The past few weeks have been filled with impatience and excitement at the anticipation of finally reaching our goal, as started back in October at the Perth 4WD show. The last couple of days however, I've become more consumed with the practicalities of the situation. I've never pulled a van before and have to be honest I feel a slight trepidation about towing it... I have a works trailer and have no issues with that but somehow the size of the van and negotiating traffic is a little daunting. I have every confidence in my own driving ability, but this will be like nothing I've ever tried. I do hope that I manage to get the thing home in one piece!!!!

In preparation for tomorrow, the other half and I, have made ourselves a list of things that we think we need to check. They range from having the tanks filled and looking for leaks, to having everything powered up, and checking that everything works. We also intend to check that every door and draw has screws in correctly and that the seating is correct. I hope that they will have a ladder and I'll be able to inspect the solar panels on the roof. We previously accepted our camper trailer ($50,000 worth) with a few things that we weren't happy with. This will not be happening again. We are paying a fair bit of money and expect things to be right. Last time, we put ourselves in a predicament by picking up the trailer on a Friday of the weekend we wanted to use it. This meant that we had little choice but to let things go. It is so easy to get wrapped up in the occasion and just `settle'. I can say from experience to any of you that may one day in this position....don't do it!!! You will regret it, and inevitably kick yourself.

I am just about to go pack the genie into the cruiser, along with the new mirrors. I want to take the genie to make sure that it fits where it should and is also secure. Again, if it is not right, we won't be taking it away. For us, Mandurah is just over a 100km's away each direction, so bringing it home and then checking things, isn't an option. No doubt, we will miss something, but we are hoping to cover most of the bases.

Well that's it for now. If anyone feels that they can add to our list of `to do's' and give us a heads up on things to check in new vans, it would be appreciated. You have four hours or so, plus an hour in the morning before we leave.

Cheers all.

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Submitted: Sunday, May 13, 2012 at 21:03

RodH, Sydney commented:

Hi Arsenal Phill. Let us know some model & specification details for the Van - I am sure there will be owners willing to give some tips.
Rod, Sydney
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Submitted:Sunday, May 13, 2012 at 22:25

Member - Arsenal Phill replied:

Hi Rod.
Its a Retreat Fraser. It comes in at 19' 6". Its a tandem axle. We have had it upgraded to independant suspension, shockers and springs. Also coming with a 4" lift on a 6" Frame.
We have had the 3-way fridge changed to a compressor fridge as we'd heard that the 3-ways struggled to get things cool.
We have got 2x 120watt solar panels on the roof and have fitting on side of van to attach moveable solar panel as we felt this would help if the van were in shady area and give us more options to capture the sun's power ie. ability to move manually.
It has 2 95 litre water tanks and we've had a water filter fitted for the sink.
Once we have it, we will be getting a stone stomper as recommended by other users on ExplorOz.
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Submitted: Monday, May 21, 2012 at 20:05

Member - sue and shaun commented:

hi arsenal phil had you looked at many vans before you bought also going through process what a pain been looking at lotus off limits but still open minded i am open to any thoughts cheers enjoy your trip next year for us
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Submitted:Monday, May 21, 2012 at 21:56

Member - Arsenal Phill replied:

Hi Sue & Shaun.

We are not caravan experts but thought I'd start this blog through the eyes of `newbies'. Any information we share is purely personal on what we found or how we approached things.

We looked at LOADS of vans. We went to 2 Perth Caravan shows and the 4WD show looking at them. I am heavily into my off roading and love getting out bush. There's just something about the solitude that draws me. I guess after living in central London all my life before moving to Perth, I've been left with the `over it' feeling regarding crowds. You just can't experience this kind of lifestyle in England.

Anyway, I digress. I have always been a camper and have a couple of decent size tents, which are great. Then a while back, the better half and I started to lean towards the possiblitiy of getting a van. Just mostly for its convenience and comfort. I liked the idea, but was worried on two fronts. I didn't like the idea of being a rolling road block was number one. Then, secondly, I was worried about the impact a van would have on the areas and places I could access. With some gentle nudging and pointing in the right direction, I got the other half to agree that we'd buy a camper trailer.

We did some reasearch on some trailers, and knew what we wanted out of it. We picked one we liked and were well surprised that it was made less than 2 mins from where we live. However that was not to last long as they were bought out by a firm over East and shut up shop and moved away. Have to say that we were less than happy with nearly aspect of that experience. I won't go into detail here, as it is not relevant to the thread.

In the end, we got rid of the trailer because it was too much like hard work. Several little things weren't right and the other half just wasn't enjoying it. Some of the gripes, I had to agree with, so that then led us to re-examine the possiblitiy of getting a van. The thing is, that our trailer experience gave us a more precise insight into what we wanted out of our van. Armed with this information we went shopping. That is where the Caravan show was great. We had direct comparisons on every aspect right next to each other. It made the whole experience so much easier.

In the end we signed up with Retreat. We were looking around one of their vans. I think it was on our third or so visit, doing one of our round robin comparisons LOL, between vans, that we met Brendon. As it turns out he has an interest in the Vans and it showed. He was great. We sat down with him, he answered every question, and was also able to translate what we wanted and suggest a package and extras that would meet our requirements. We picked the van up last Monday and we'd both tell you that they surpassed our expectations. If it works as well as it looks, then we are going to be very, very happy campers!!! Thursday just can't get here quick enough, as that will be when we first hit the road and get to try her out for the first time.

So in answer to your question, the way we approached our purchase was to have a clear goal in mind. We knew the kind of places we hope to go. We had a rough idea of terrain and climate and that was basically the measure of our cloth. We uprated the suspension to fully independant coils and shocks. We had solar on the roof and have a third panel that we can move around on ground level to follow the sun should we be parked in shade. I already had a Honda 2kva Genie. Currently we can carry 190 litres of water, which I think will be enough. If it proves not enough, we'll just add another tanks. We also had jerry can holders put on the back, so that gives the capacity to carry either more water or fuel. We are bound to have missed something, but only time will show us that one.

As for the van inhibating our off-road excursions, we have decided that on the occasions where the van can't and shouldn't go, we'll just leave her somewhere and take the tent. Eventually if the necessary, we may look into getting a roof top tent for the Cruiser, but in truth, I think that is unlikely. The smaller of my two tents already has its spot in the van, so its not a problem to always have it with us.

Good luck with finding the right van for yourselves. I hope it fits you like a glove.
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