Product Review No 6 - Tyre Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS) - Sensatyre & Tyredog Systems

Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 00:00

Mick O

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Questions about Wireless Tyre Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS) appear quite regularly on many popular vehicle and travel forums. I have had a few opinions over the years in respect to various tyres of TPM systems. For the serious traveller, I believe they are an invaluable asset. With todays modern 4x4 tyres costing many hundreds of dollars each, if a TPMS saves one expensive tyre from replacement, it has all but paid for itself, mind you I’m probably preaching to the converted here. They also add a degree of safety when towing as quite often, a tyre situation a good deal further away than the vehicle cabin can go un-noticed until some real damage or danger occurs.


I own both a set of Sensatyre (on both my Nissan and the new ute) with internal sensors and a set of Tyredogs with a valve mounted sensor that can be screwed on and off the tyre valve stem. Both are multi vehicle combinations. I have 8 sensors on the Sensatyre system to cover the vehicle, trailer and two spare tyres. I utilise two external receivers at the front and rear of the vehicle. The Tyredog is set for 6 tyres being vehicle and trailer with two receivers again.


I am a big fan of the internal mount sensors as they are largely protected from external damage. The internal sensors take two forms. One is a unit incorporating the valve (so it sits inside the tyre immediately behind the valve. The second is a clamp unit that fits to the centre of the rim with a large spring steel wind on clamp (like a giant hose clamp). The external sensors such as the tyredog, simply screw onto the top of the valve stems replacing the valve cap. You can also fit a locking ring which uses a small grub screw to hold the ring and sensor in place on the valve stem and prevents them from unwinding.


Obviously screw on sensors provide added ease of functionality for rotating to other wheels. The irony is that these come with a locking fixture for safety and theft prevention. Unfortunately it means a bit of extra work with a small allen-key to remove them. If you do not use the locking rings with the cap sensors, they can be susceptible to corrugations, rocks and rough road conditions. This means that the unit can loosen from the valve and or the entire cap from the sensor unit can come loose and depart leaving the sensitive internals and battery exposed. Similarly, if undertaking rough off-track work, the caps can suffer at the mercy of the surrounding bush and terrain. I would recommend having short valve stems fitted to tyres. I have heard of another remedy in having second valves fitted in the centre of the rims. This means drilling the rim and fitting an extra valve out of the way of scrub and the likes. It seems like a hell of a lot of trouble to me and may have some impact on warranty of the rims and insurance issues should they be needed (structural integrity of the rims compromised by alteration from engineered standard – you know the drill)


I had a bad time with the Tyredog valve stem mounted units in 2009 due to rough terrain. I must add that normal highway use wouldn't have seen these issues with valve stem mounts. I found that with some remedial action in this year’s trip by;

1. fitting small valve stems on the rims; and
2. wrapping electrical tape around the caps,

All sensors remained attached, intact and operating.


Some other valve mounting systems have a sealed sender unit (TPMS brand for example). While this offers a degree of robustness, it does not allow for the changing of internal batteries. This results in the entire unit having to be replaced every three years or so at a cost of $50 per sender unit. I have no experience with the TPMS but have seen positive reports from forum members regarding the product


Visual display units provided for both products are good with windscreen mounted receivers and display. Both units utilise a cigarette plug attachment for power and a suction cup mount windscreen mount. The Sensatyre is a bigger unit but comes with a flexible mount system that was very robust and provided more mounting options. Both can be hardwired into the electrical systems of the vehicle, something I have done with the SensaTyre unit on my current vehicle.


The Tyredog has an inbuilt receiver aerial while the Sensatyre offers two solutions. First there is an external areal that screws to the top of the display module. This can be screwed on or off at will or will flip down out of the way. The SensaTyre also allows you to mount and run various wireless receivers underneath the vehicle that hardwire back into the display unit. The larger kit comes with sensors and connecters that can be mounted under the vehicle and caravan/trailer for better reception. The aerial is also great redundancy if, like I did on one occasion, severed the wire from the receiver under the vehicle. Reception on the Sensatyre was better than the Tyre-dog, particularly over distance. Display options are both good. One fault with the Tyredog was that it displays the last reading of a unit constantly and does not alert you should a sender unit be “lost” or knocked off a tyre. This gives you an erroneous reading that all is OK despite the sensor being totally missing from the tyre. Another minor issue is that scew-on caps can suffer a fair discrepency in reading internal tyre temperatures. I have noted up to 10C difference while running both sensors on the same tyre. The internal sensor provides a far more accurate reading in my experience.


Tyre dog sensors employ a small camera type, coin sized lithium battery which screws in under the cap. Easy enough to replace but I'd suggest trying to get a swag of them at a $2.00 shop if possible as the units can chew through them. The internal sensors of the Sensatyre are actually sealed and must be replaced when exhausted. The internal power lasts for up to seven (7) years in normal operating circumstances. The internal units on the Patrol were still going strong at 5 years old when I sold her.


When repairing tyre damage, Valve screw units are removed and you have no further issues. With internal mounts, you need to be mindful of the sensors. Easy enough with a valve unit as you know where the receiver is. I have found the best way is to ensure that the sender unit is actually in line with the valve. This way you will always know where the sender is located on the centre of the rim. Don’t forget to tell the blokes changing the tyres that you have internal TPMS monitors fitted.


For ease of use, I prefer the Sensatyre as they are easier to reprogram, particularly when on the move. ie Low pressure/temperature warning setting can be easily and quickly adjusted should your needs change, ie dropping tyre pressure warning settings to deal with sand or corrugations.


My personal opinion is that the quality and functionality of the Sensatyre system is better. Certainly the robustness of the sensor system is excellent as well. I have owned two Sensatyre systems over the past 6 years, each have which have done many thousands of tough outback kilometres and I have not had any issues other than damage I caused to a remote receiver. I simply changed to the aerial and all was well. The valve cap system is also a great unit for road applications. I have had issues in rugged terrain and rough, corrugated roads. The head unit is also not as robust as the Sensatyre unit.






I would also speak highly of the level of customer service from the distributors at Hannibal in QLD who will readily go through any issues over the phone while you're on the road. Price for both is much of a muchness.



A disclaimer of sorts;




I make the clear distinction here and now that while I have some experience as an outback traveller, I am not a technical expert by any stretch of the imagination. It's my personal experience upon which I base my reviews. As in this case, I will on occasion compare these products against a similar product that I am familiar with through personal experience. This is factual based and not anecdotal (someone telling me about it) experience.



These reviews are not designed to influence you towards any particular product. I’m not receiving any financial advantage in doing this, rather I am providing my personal opinion on the quality and suitability of the products I have purchased and used. Any decision about purchasing a product should be made after a thorough analysis of your own needs and budget and supported by your own research (as were mine).

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Submitted: Thursday, Nov 17, 2011 at 03:40

Member - John (Vic) commented:

Good write up old fella!!
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Submitted:Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:49

Mick O replied:

Cheers John. One of the things I don't leave home without these days.

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Submitted: Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 20:02

Robin Miller commented:

I'd suggest to owners that they do the following test to determine how well there units react Mick.

The test is to change your tyre pressure and see how long it takes the unit to pick up the change.

This is not as easy as it seems.

I have seen someone showing me how well theres works, it was a tyre dog system (screw onto valve).
He switched the receiver on then proceeded to quickly screw each sender onto the valve stem - by the time he finished all sensors had readings up onto the display and the unit was declared a sucess.
Fatal error - why because the hand screwing the sensor on acts like an aerial and causes a much enhanced signal.

The only way to do it is to change your tyre pressure to any new value then turn off the receiver and drive the car along an open vacant road.

When there is no traffic around , turn the receiver on and see how long it takes to read the new tyre pressures.

With some units you can wait a long time , then a car passes you, or you cross a bridge with steel railing and you get a sudden reading as the metal refects the signal from the sensor to the receiver.




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Submitted:Wednesday, Nov 23, 2011 at 21:52

Mick O replied:

Have found from experience that the Sensatyre unit is pretty much instantaneous and will read accurately as you increase tyre pressure.

Cheers Mick
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Submitted: Thursday, Nov 24, 2011 at 07:07

Robin Miller commented:

Hi Mick

They all are instantaneous if your body / another car or building wall etc act as a reflector between the unit and receiver so these items have to be out of the picture in any test.

Robin
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Submitted:Tuesday, Dec 06, 2011 at 21:40

Mick O replied:

Robin, with the sensatyre, I wasn't actually standing near the tyre. It was hooked to my small compresor and I was watching the increase in tyre pressure on the monitor in the cab as the pressure guage on the compressor is a fraction dodgy. I only stepped from the vehicle to turn the compressor off. Pretty much instantaneous with the sensatyre units and no external interference or "reflection".

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Submitted: Thursday, Nov 24, 2011 at 17:28

Rockape commented:

Robin,
As you have pointed out.

I have a T.P.M.S. made unit and have found that it takes a couple of K's driving to settle down before it gives up to date information on the tyres.

RA.
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Submitted: Saturday, Nov 26, 2011 at 22:30

Member - Markthemilko commented:

I have a TPMS unit and although one unit stopped working after a few weeks on the road, the other 3 worked fine. The TPMS alerted me to 2 flat (tubed) tyres on our Perth-Gold Coast-Perth trip on the Anne Beadell and I had the jack underneath before they were totally deflated. Definitely money well spent!
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Submitted:Tuesday, Dec 06, 2011 at 21:37

Mick O replied:

Thanks Mark, that's something I forgot to mention. The screw on type sensors enable you to monitor tubed tyres. As a tubeless user, I tend to forget that!

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Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 07, 2011 at 12:19

Member - Markthemilko commented:

My Tyredog sensors have monitors that screw on the valve stem (replacing the valve cap) and can be 'locked' on with the aid of a lock ring & allen key. Each is 'wheel-specific' ( ie FF,RR etc to match the screen diagram), thus easily moved from a punctured wheel to its' replacement.
But if you have ones that fit inside the tyre, are they 'wheel specific' and what about its' replacement - does that mean you have to buy sensors for your spares as well? And remember to tell the tyre fitter that one is fitted so he's careful to not damage it, and to retrieve it!
happy travelling
Mark
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Submitted:Wednesday, Dec 07, 2011 at 16:55

Mick O replied:

In a word Mark, Yes. I specifically bought and 8 sensor kit that was expandable. As I carry two fully prepared spare wheels and tyres I have the sensors in these as well. I also have the trailer tyres fitted as well. In most cases, if the puncture is minor, a plug will suffice so I don't actually have to change the wheel and tyre. The valve mounted sensors are an advantage in that sense and the fact that they can be used on tube tyres as well.

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Submitted: Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:58

Ozhumvee commented:

I have the Sensatyre multi unit with the under vehicle remote aerial and it works very well, has picked up all five tyres (rear mounted spare) before the truck has been backed out of the shed.
Is also easy to reprogramme on the go when you change tyre pressures for different road conditions, reacts every time when dropping tyre pressures and best of all has saved two tyres in twelve months so from now on it has paid for itself.
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Submitted:Wednesday, May 02, 2012 at 22:22

Mick O replied:

and I thank god I didn't have to help change them!!!! (That's what Sandy is for ;-)

Viva GDEC!

Cheers Pete.
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Submitted: Monday, Dec 03, 2012 at 23:25

Doors B commented:

I bought the Tyredog TPMS... trusting in it cost me a tyre and almost my life. This is due to the very slow reaction/update times. By the time the tyre lost all its pressure and i was off the gravel road and stationary... i did still did not receive a warning of lost of tyre pressure... I will rate it as a bad product!!
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Submitted:Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:53

Mick O replied:

Doors, that was an issue I pointed out in my review. If you lose a sensor from the tyre, or the battery fails, the incab monitor wioll continue to display the lasy reading regardless of the fact that the sensor is missing. It only reregisteres once the unit has been restarted. Indeed this is something to be wary of.

Thanks for your comment. Mick
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Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:08

Echucan Bob commented:

I was under the impression that all systems only transmit when the tyre is rotating. Otherwise they would drain the batteries very quickly. So until you start to move the sender isn't actually sending.

I've had Smartire and Tyredog. The Smartire were too easliy damaged during tyre replacement.
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