Permit Required For Mitchell Plateau

Could see that happening, and one hopes that the revenue gets used for the betterment of all.

Cheers

Dunc

what will happens to the funds , disappear
as usual

And next will be ?? Can see the 'black market' in the permits , just like the 'resale ' of permits for Ayers Rock that happens at Coward Springs.....

So, what is the money for? Road maintenance that has rarely occurred, better facilities which are not needed when self sufficient, or someone's slush fund? Fortunately I have been to that area multiple times, so I will find somewhere else to go.....just running out of options where we don't get charged for visiting our own country.

MP ? isn't that supposed to be NP ie National Park - most already charge a entry fee or camping fee as case maybe -a few both fee apply in WA.

Way it goes nothing new doubt the fee applied be used for its intended purpose just be lining some manager in a office somewhere in perth cbd

Bout time we put an entry fee for swimming on NSW beaches ?

So will the campground fees still apply and be included in the permit? I'm getting a bit tired of all this paying to access parts of Australia. Might set up a permit system for my street while I'm at it.

My guess the NP camp fee's will stay. Its a road access pass. You pay if you come in by road sea or air. I won't be going back there ever again. I could see something like this happening a few years ago when they started at King Edward river camp ground.

have seen MP several times. was planning to go there in 2020.
will cross that one off my list. if they want to keep people away they have acheived it. in my group there are 6 vehicles we will spend our money else where.

So, the 2 of you are off on your big trip for the year which includes the NW of WA. If you are from the southern/eastern states and are doing the the round trip back through southern WA, the total distance travelled will be in excess of 10 000 kms, probably more like 13 000km. The travels costs alone – ignoring meals, etc - will be of the same order – many thousands of dollars.

Assuming you are including the Gibb River Road in your travels, you get to the turn off to the Mitchell Plateau and Falls and say to each other “Nah, just not worth paying the $40”. It will only be ……. (insert your own comment reflecting your pov), Yeh, right!

Reading the communities objectives (in Baz’s post), I wish them every success. The times I have taken the trouble to listen to Aboriginal people talk about country (I use this term in the Aboriginal sense of the word), I have been blown away by their deep wisdom and caring. But often they will only share this with receptive people who really want to listen and understand without prejudice and prejudging. In my experience, the more the trust builds, the more you get to hear.

It is so easy to stereotype, to “write people and/or groups off” - everybody knows what (insert your chosen target group) are like! (really?) I know many people who could not organise the proverbial p..s up in a brewery. They came in all shapes and sizes and from many different educational and ethnic backgrounds.

The assumptions we make about a person or group become the “filters” through which we perceive them and respond. And this invariably brings about the the very behaviours that confirm our original assumptions. It ends up as a lose/lose situation, rather than a win/win.

Happy travelling!

Cheers
Andrew

It is people’s right to complain about anything they like…but;

I always feel it is important to view things through a number of lenses before having that whine!

We are so lucky in Australia that we are “free to roam” wherever we like, for the most part.

We can travel widely to experience what is arguably the best continent on the planet, with the best weather, plenty of sunshine, a large diversity of flora and fauna, and magnificent natural beauty to be amazed by.

That freedom exists because unlike some countries we are not ravaged by war or violent internal conflicts. And even the wildlife is mostly friendly – usually nothing is trying to eat you unless you decide to be a food source by swimming with the “salties” in Australia’s northern parts.

Yes, there are some travel restrictions – I’m sure I’m not alone when I say I don’t want anyone roaming up my driveway uninvited and undoubtedly others feel the same about there own part of Australia.

Some places are simply off-limits.

Others might let you in for a fee, whether it is the Board of the MCG with their hand out before you pass through the turnstiles for the Boxing Day Test or the AFL Grand Final, or Traditional Owners at the front-gates of Kakadu before you enter to enjoy the landscape.

That’s life in a capitalist society (you should see the alternative!)…

And yes, there might be some frustrating red tape and an associated fee to traverse some parts of Australia and perhaps the permit system for entering aboriginal lands is disjointed.

But anyone who has dealt with government departments on a regular basis might find the permit system isn’t too bad. With some patience you can generally achieve the outcome you are looking for and in many cases without any cost.

On average, Australian’s enjoy a good standard of living and that is what enables many to travel and explore this great country of ours, whether as a “gap year” when fresh out of high school, or with partners and friends in our “retiring years”…

Or perhaps Mum and Dad with the young ones on an extended tour to show the kids there is more to schooling than a classroom, slate, and chalkboard!

The freedom to choose is mostly ours…

But freedom of choice doesn’t necessarily equate to “free of charge”.

If a fee to traverse a road is all we can find to whine about then I reckon life ain’t to bad in the Sunburnt Country, at least there is a choice – in some parts of the world you don’t have the freedom to choose.

I guess human nature is such that no matter how good something is there will be those who will want to find something to have a “whine” about….

Such is life, hey!

Cheers, Baz – The Landy

If the fees mean less people go there, then that's a good thing for the people who do decide to go.
Most tracts of land that are specifically named and have defined boundaries are either closed off in some way or another, or charge a fee, not just indigenous lands. I don't see how those people who complain about access to "their country" can't see that.