Heritage listed tourist attraction vandalised!!

Oh dear, those poor little children.

I hope we are able to enroll them in another course to allow them to get in touch with their feelings. This is an important step, we have to throw lots of money in these areas, so the disadvantaged children can then slowly integrate back into society.

I would hate to wind the clock back, say 30 years, when I was 16...........

If I ****ed up, I paid.......... dearly.

I shake my head.........

Wolfie

I think the problem here is that there are two sorts of "disadvantaged kids" in the world, the one who respond to positive encouragement and assistance, and then the one who need to be sent to the place in Utah where they send them out into the wild, and they have to even earn the right to even the most basic of reward eg, spoons forks and knives.

This is a generalised comment; too many kids these days feel that they have a right to everything, nothing needs to be earned. There is very little respect for their elders/teacher/authority.

My 15yr old is having difficultly with the fact that we don't have the latest games, and we're not giving him a car, we're helping with a loan.

Sorry this next bit it long but it's one of my favourites!! and appologise to those who have already seen it!!!

Don't Mess With Mom

My son came home from school one day,with a smirk upon his face.
He decided he was smart enough,to put me in my place.

"Guess what I learned in Civics Two,that's taught by Mr. Wright?
It's all about the laws today,The "Children's Bill of Rights."

It says I need not clean my room, don't have to cut my hair.
No one can tell me what to think, or speak, or what to wear.

I have freedom from religion, and regardless what you say,
I don't have to bow my head, and I sure don't have to pray.

I can wear earrings if I want, And pierce my tongue and nose.
I can read and watch just what I like, and get tattoos from head to toes.

And if you ever spank me, I'll charge you with a crime.
I'll back up all my charges, with the marks on my behind.

Don't you ever touch me, My body's only for my use,
not for your hugs and kisses, that's just more child abuse.

Don't preach about your morals, like your Mama did to you.
That's nothing more than mind control, And it's illegal too!

Mom, I have these children's rights, so you can't influence me,
or I'll call Children's Services Division, better known as C. S. D.

Of course my first instinct was, to toss him out the door.
But the chance to teach him a lesson made me think a little more.

I mulled it over carefully, I couldn't let this go.
A smile crept upon my face, he's messing with a pro.

The next day I took him shopping at the local Goodwill Store.
I told him,"Pick out all you want, there's shirts and pants galore..
I've called and checked with C. S. D. who said they didn't care
if I bought you K-Mart shoes instead of those Nike Airs.

And I've canceled that appointment to take your driver's test.
The C. S. D. is unconcerned so I'll decide what's best.

I said "No time to stop and eat, or pick up stuff to munch.
And tomorrow you can start to learn to make your own sack lunch."

Just save the raging appetite, and wait till dinner time.
We're having liver and onions, a favorite dish of mine.

He asked "Can I please rent a movie, to watch on my VCR?"
"Sorry, but I sold your TV, to put new tires on my car."

I also rented out your room, you'll take the couch instead.
All the C. S. D. requires is a roof for over your head.

Your clothing won't be trendy now, and I'll choose what we eat.
That allowance that you used to get, will buy me something neat.

I'm selling off your jet ski, dirt-bike and roller blades.
Check out the "Parents Bill of Rights," It's in effect today!

Hey hot shot, are you crying, and why are you on your knees?
Are you asking God to help you out, instead of C. S. D..?

SANDY

Davoe,

And there we were discussing Niagra Dam only a couple of days back, what a nice place it is, etc. This place is so isolated that grafitti is the last thing you would expect to see when visiting. A real disgrace!

The kids are obviously rat bags but that is likely why they went on this trip in the first place. What needs to be questioned is the lack of supervision and how on earth a group like this gets to go anywhere with spray cans packed away for some out of hours fun. It isn't like you can call into the local hardware for fresh supplies is it. Fair dinkum, which ever group organised this had a duty of care to ensure these kids didn't go off armed with spray cans. As for the supervisors, they had better have some good answers ready.

These guys need to be bundled up and returned to site to take part in the clean-up, if that's at all possible. Well that is a most unlikely outcome, so I wonder what the plan is. If nothing looks like happening, then I think could be good to get a group of volunteers together and see what can be done. I'm in Perth but would be willing to help out - say over a long w/e.

Regards,
Hugh

Yep, one of the ways to teach them responsibility would be to make them and the "leaders" clean it up. There's not much leadership there if they just leave it as somebody elses problem.

And don't be so naive in thinking that this is the society of TODAY. It's sa when cases such as this brand everybody of that age the same. Kids at 14/15 will always rebel against authority and always have. It just feels different now that you're on the other end of the arguement.

So make them clean it up or send the clean up bill the supervisors. That'll teach them all some responsibilty.

What a bleedin joke.
who the hell is responsible for this act of stupid vandalism.?
not the parents of the kids,,,,,,
not the kids either......
not even the supervisors.......
one very simple answer.......
the dogooder idiot who decided a few years ago that we can no longer dicipline our children, we can no longer teach them right from wrong, and we can not do anything when they " play " up.....
oops, hang on a tick.....
now that these kids are basically out of our control,,,,
can do and act as they say,,,whenever and wherever they want...
without fear of recrimination from a parent or the law......
what is the gogooder brigade doing.........?
blaming the parents.......lolololol.........now that is a joke...........lololol
stuff the lot of em i say,,,,take those kids back out there,,,,,give em a good clip under the ear, and make them fix their own mess.
and dont forget to take the supervisors, the idiot who organized the outing, the dogooder who took away the rights of parents, and a few pollies as well...make all of them clean it up.
and dont forget that they all have to apologise to the female teacher as well.

rick.

Bit like a case here in Canberra where a guy woke up to fine some youths in his house stealing stuff, he caught one and then the other started smashing things up to try and make his release the kids. All the while his wife and children and in a room calling the police scared out of their wits.

What are that youth's parent decide to do????

Sue the homeowner for unlawfully retraining their child, go figure that out. I'd be too ashamed, I would have taken anything of value my child had and taken to the family, made him apologise and hand over the stuff for them to sell to fix the damage.

My son mucked up and so I took away his wallet and cashcard, the only thing important to him since he got a job, what did he say "You can't do that, it's taking away my civil liberties" Needless to say he didn't get the card back.

Sandy

I have done some local welfare work & find that in many cases behaviour that we consider abnormal has been the norm for generations down a family line, even sexual abuse and the current crop know no different until they are taught otherwise.
As mentioned above the laws are crazy & maybe we are to blame for allowing it
but we let our "leadership" continue down this path. Just check out the activities of the ACLU & ADL with a google search.

Line them up and just remove them from the gene pool.

There is a solution to this and other problems within our society.
It's called CAPITAL PUNISHMENT and until it is brought back, problems will continue to occur.

Now I wasn't an angel at school and received (and deserved) the cane on one or two occasions. Well let me assure everybody, it made me think twice about what I did to deserve such punishment and it didn't affect my brain (at least I don't think so) that caused irreversible trauma. In fact, I respected the teacher(s) that dished out the punishment more than the other teachers.

Kids just don't have any "threat" hanging over them any more.
Even Mum & Dad can be arrested and incarcerated for giving their kid a slap.

The problem wont get better under the current "do-gooders" philosophy.

Not only would I force the perpetrators to clean the mess up, but I would "gently" smack their heads into the dam wall as well whilst pointing out the damage they had caused.

Well, all this seems to be going of the topic and everyone's frustration with youth is coming out.

The whole thing about "bullet in the head" stuff really is not doing either side any favours.

You could solve all the problems of society in that manner like - speeding, illegal bulbars / spotties / parking etc. Overnight it would all be fixed.

Respect is only worthy something when it is earned and not demanded. It doesn't matter if your 15 or 65. The kids who demand their rights and respect now will probably still demand it when they're 65 and some snotty 15 year old is pi$$ing them off. and so the wheel keeps turning.

R.