What no more BULLBARS

Onya Hairs....done.

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Onya Hairs....done.

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Hi Jon.
Thanks for the info.
Survry completed.
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Vince

I've tryed three times and it wont recognise my Email address.

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You you like one of my spare ones Dave ;)

Survey completed.

Jon, tried the two I've got and it doesn't want to know, Maybe I don't exist lol

Got no Idea why it wont mate. :(
I just use another address, same name, post code and it accepted it.
Don't know.
Hmmm

Survey complete.

Another one complete

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Yaah Hooo, success at last.

That's good Dave, Ya got a win.

Done

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Done it to thanks Jon

Thanks Jon,
All done
Ian

Thanks Jon,
Survey completed

John D

Just completed survey

Ray

Another survey completed.

An update Guys,

"the Minister has already released a statement acknowledging the safety aspects of bullbars and that they’re not planning on banning them."
20,000 plus people whove fired off emails letting the government know what we think of their ridiculous R.I.S. draft proposing a ban on bull bars.

DITTO!
regards

Onya Dodg, My Survey done,
Where do they propose we mount winches, driving lights, sand flags, aerials and high lift jack points etc.???
What do they propose for protection of animal strikes in rural and remote areas???

"As for protuding objects like fishing rod holders, they are already illegal in NSW"
I pointed this out to a H/way copper one day when he had pulling me over for my High Lift jack mounted on the top of my bull bar, but it is behind it. Several utes went past with fishing holders on their bullbars, He choose to ignore them. He was more interested in my high lift jack.
I produce for him,

And this,

Which he seemed puzzled about, another ute with rod holders drove past, which I pointed out again, He gave me back my license and drove off in the opposite direction to them.
My jack on the bar complies with RTA regs.

Looking at the field of vision diagrams, I wonder how many people have got their GPS positioned that would affect this? If small things that hang off your mirror affect vision, what about a dirty big rectangle thing stuck on the window?

Hmm, True SDG.
I've often wondered about Air fresheners and the fluffy dices hanging from the rear view mirror being a problem.
Not that long ago, I heard a weird ting tangle sound as a woman reverse in next me and she had a set of wind chimes hanging from her mirror.

Re the GPS.... I got told to remove mine in WA, even though I showed the policeman that it didn't in any way affect my fideld of vision. Apparently they are big on this over there..... ridiculous!

Cheers,
Mark

Hairs

Ever tried to reason with the "Jacks", when they have gone out of their way to pull you over..

You will have to let me in on your secret !

Cheers
Buicky

Hi mark,
It's frustrating when one copper interrupts the regulations differently to another.

Hi Bucky,
It passes rego each year sitting up there proud as.
The mechanic that writes my papers out each year for the past 5 years has measured my field of vision and all the other relevant details with the ADR and the RTA's regulations and it complies.
The Young Copper that pulled me up the first has a reputation for being a bit gun ho, and when I was confronted by him, 1) I held my ground, 2) I questioned his knowledge of the ADR & RTA reg's, 3) pointed out examples of what was illegal, 4) I questions his method for pulling me over about it.
He was previously parked opposite our school(100 meters with my vehicle in full view for 30 odd minutes) hoping to catch speeding parents dropping of kids at our local primary school. He had plenty of time to approach me and ask about it, instead I get the Lights and siren blaring and pulled up in the main drag through town. To which he had no answer.
I also questioned why he wasn't wearing his High Visibility Safety vest.

No secret mate, just knew I was right and I backed it up with fact.
Now, I'm not having a crack at coppers here, there is a hell of a lot that they need to know about all manner of stuff from family law to motor regulations, but a little common courtesy does go along way.

Cheers.

Same thing applies to a pedestrian.

Oh yeah

I did the survey - hope it helps.

Apparenty as far as pedestrians are concened they are. Somthing about the body not being able to get thrown over or under vehicle, thus creating more damage, compared to a non bullbar vehicle.
As for buses and trucks, while people want mass transport, and food delivered to shops, they will always outweigh the needs of 4wdrivers.

In the event of an accident with another vehicle, most of the older 4wd's have a stong enough standard front bar that will wreck a sedan if the 4wd tbones it. A head on colliso will probably result in both vehicles being wrecked, regardless of who has a bullbar or not, and if someone tbones into a 4wd, does not matter about bullbar.

Personally i'm not getting rid of mine, not that I believe this is going to happen. This arguement comes up in government almost every year for the last decade or so.

SDG,
It'll come up more often now that the Greens are practically running the country.
Cheers Dave.

"this argument comes up in government almost every year for the last decade or so."
True,
But the moment we as a group do nothing it will pass through legislation.

You'd have an argument on ya hands if you were talking to my 8 yr old son LOL
:)

I have hit more cattle than roo's so it is a BULL BAR ;)

Cheers Kev

Was always a ROO BAR where I came from. Now I work on a large cattle farm with a couple of hundred bulls. They are BULL Bars here !!! With a 2 tonne bull facing up to a Zuki, the bigger the bar the better !!

Ian

Ianw
Ian if you were from Eyre Peninsular, if so good day. If not my apologies and good day anyway.
Cheers
Charlie

sorry for thread hijack

Yep, gidday Charlie, hows things in Kimba? Many roos about? (just to keep it on topic)
Ian

Damn I have hit more Wombats than Roos! no bulls, a few sheep, but I did hit a wild Turkey once. Oh and heaps of malley trees.

Cheers

I've never hit a roo or a bull, but I hit a crow once so does that make it a crowbar. lol
Cheers Ray

Morning Ray,
Only if you hit a Crow.
;)

Hi Ian
Yes more roos, emus and sheep than bulls
Have a good one
Cheers
Charlie

You are certainly entitled to your opinion but you obviously haven't been in a situation where you have needed a bull bar. Maybe also you havent planned a trip for 12 months, taken a large part of your well earned holiday and Long service leave and spent considerable thousands on getting your vehicle and gear in order, only to have your vehicle demolished by an animal strike a few days into your well earned holiday!! Luckily you stick to the suburbs and dont have that problem. Maybe you are on the wrong forum..... Michael

But your third one does have I believe!

Michael you couldn't be any wronger mate. DD does extensive outback travel as well and caravanning and lots of travel. He has rebuilt the front end of one of his vehicles more times than Toyota, not from Roo strikes but from washouts. He is most certainly on the right forum, with a differing opinion, that's all he's guilty of mate.

hi all
yes i did my survey yesterday
this is just another go at the 4x4 owners
the media will be back onto it this week koshie and co he rides a moped or something and hates roo/bullbars
today tonight// aca
this topic is more consistant and so repetative its like balli belly
and has the same effect
i'm not taking my bar off either
over the years i have hit
roos
emus
turkeys
pigeons
ducks
cattle
crows
eagles
but hitting the bar for a beer used to be a favorite until health reasons put a bar on that
totally barred
cheers