Member - Bob posted:

Ruth I agree with your comment about the effect of rain on roads, but can't agree your emphasis on the camper trailer. It is simply implausible that a pair of undriven wheels carrying a few hundred kilos can do as much, let alone more damage, than the wheels of the vehicle carrying typically 3 tonnes or more. I suspect this is part of you irrational prejudice against trailers.

Robert posted:

Well said Bob!

I guess that if damage is being done, then people look for someone convenient to blame!
No one wants to acknowledge that maybe track damage, is simply due to the sheer numbers of people travelling.
Are some people keen to ban trailers, as they see it as a convenient means of reducing these numbers?
Perhaps some offroad trailers are inappropriate to take into these areas due to their weight. If this is the case, is it fair that all offroad trailers should be banned?
No one actually puts forward any evidence of damage, its all just hear say.
If trailers are banned and the damage continues, will vehicles then also be banned?

Member - Luxoluk posted:

Hi Bob & Robert

I can assure you it is not a pretty sight when a 4wd with trailer gets stuck or is hunting traction to pull the mini road train along. They generally leave nothing but a mess behind for the locals to tollerate for several months to come. Put them over the sand dunes and they just stuff it up for everyone else. That's my 2 bob's worth!! Go Ruth!!!

Cheers

Robert posted:

Hi Luxoluk,

Plenty of people towing trailers will equally tell you that no damage is done!

Who do you believe?

From my own experience towing a trailer over sand dunes, I can honestly say, that I don’t see how more damage is done whilst towing a trailer. But then my trailer was built with the weight issue in mind. Perhaps the damage you are accusing trailers of, is caused by those trailers that are inappropriate for offroad use, due to their weight. Therefore is it fair that all trailers should be banned?
And if trailers are banned and the damage continues, should vehicles then also be banned?

Finally your comment:
“I can assure you it is not a pretty sight when a 4wd with trailer gets stuck or is hunting traction”

Equally:
“It is not a pretty sight when a 4wd gets stuck or is hunting traction”

Richard posted:

point taken, I thought the half mil. was all there was anywhere along the track. As for your first reply regarding not much outback dirt road travel, the 4by i have now which is 9 months old and done 47000 kays, at least 20000 of that would be on outback dirt roads. Not alot by your standards i spose but it is my 3rd 4wd and i do live in the city.