Ray replied:

Hi Ralph
Sorry about your problems but my son has a Hilux with pedders fitted, used extensively offroad and has had no problems at all. You would be surprised how many shocks are built by monroe and badged to other brands. This is common in the automotive industry to have one factory making the same components for different customers under their own brand.
Hope you solve your problems, but not on this forum
Ray

DUNCAN replied:

When I was in Bamaga (cape york) we visited the local mechanic
for some minor repairs and noticed that there was a pile of about
7 pedders shockies sitting in the corner of the workshop not a good
sign if you ask me, it was even funnier because one of the guys with
us just put a suspension kit on from pedders.

Guy replied:

Ralph, keep the good work and the information coming. This is music to my aers. I've heard of their poor performances before.

Member - Tony replied:

Ralph, thanks for the honest opinion. I guess there's no sitting on the fence ;-) I didn't see your thread until after my post on 'pathfinder's' "Rancho vs OME" question. Yeh, the guy at Pedders was only trying to push his product; that's why forums like this are great. Unbiased (or even biased) opinions, true life experiences and recommendations. I've got a '93 4Runner, and I'm still tending to lean towards Rancho 9000's some time next year, before I head out to Cameron's Corner. Cheers, Tony

Dave replied:

Gday Ralph,
Sounds to me as though you have a bit of a persol problem, not a product problem. Mate I've had Pedders products on all of my vehicles for the last 5 years and have done the Cape trip on a number of times. I've had one shock let go on me and have found pedders support and warranty to be second to none. They had another shock sent to me no questions and all they asked was to bring the faulty unit back with me. This I've found with no other manufacturer!!! If you saw where we had taken the vehicle the previous day you would ask why they all didn't fail!!!!

So to all the people out there who have read your gripe think about this.....If Ralph hates Pedders this much ask why? Do you think there is more to the story than what Ralph has written? I think so!

Back at ya Ralph and good luck with your next lot of shocks....what ever they may be!

Dave replied:

Wowee Ralph......still sounds like really bad sour grapes to me!
I thought these threads were set up to ask other Four Wheel Drive owners their thoughts and opinions of different products or information in general... ...not a way of getting into a popular web site to have a personal attack at a national company and the many francises.
If you have to resort to this.....I struggle to believe the problem is the product!!!

Again like I said last time...I have had a great run with my suspension, the Manager at the Pedders store I bought the suspension off couldn't have been any more helpful. So to me thats all that matters!!


Sorry if you feel this way....and again I don't believe this is the place to be airing your frustations! Maybe kicking the dog at home may help.

Dave replied:

just a thought ......your not the Ralph from the NO BULL comercials , Are you ?.....lol

Dave replied:

Gee Ralph you really do have a chip on your shoulder , i think you should take Johns advice and have a chill pill, maybe a whole bottle of them . I wasnt going to comment B4 but i will add my two bobs worth now , i have used pedders suspension on most of my vehicles and have never experienced any probs , with product or staff, i honestly believe you should take a good look at yourself mate , and seriously CHILL OUT
Kind Regards DAVE

Cruiser replied:

Just a thought....are we all being duped again? There's something vaguely familiar about the tone of this particular forum contribution.
Is 'Ralph' real or just another incarnation of our almost forgotten troublemaker? (Remember the anti-Landrover tirades?) As others have said, they've had no problems with Pedders, who've been around for quite a while now. I also find it difficult to believe that someone with the kind of aggressive approach, or the poor command of language we are witnessing here, has been a store owner as claimed in the original post. So, in the same way as Pedders provide balanced suspension packages for Australian conditions, I can only assume the author is one of the most evenly-balanced people I can think of - with a chip on EACH shoulder. Cheers, Cruiser

JASON replied:

Ralph i have to say if your,s is a personel problem with pedders( and you obviously cant handle objective opinions)then you should,nt have posted your opinion on this forum.As you have done so you have to expect both positive & negative responses.Here,s a few comments for you to chew on from someone who works in the automotive industry. 1.Warranty starts at time of original fitment & expires at set time after reguardless of date or amount of claimes.This is common practice with both genuine and aftermarket manufactures,not just pedders.2.As pointed out in another response rebadging of good products is also common practice in the industry maybe you should consider weather pedders are rebadged gabrial shocks or is it the other way round after all pedders were the inventers of foam cell technolagy.3.If you have lost 350k i would say it,s because of your attitude not pedders products(my opinion)if you want to recoupe some of that money i,d suggest you start by selling your computer,and leaving the rest of the planet alone..My dealings with pedders have recently included a warranty claim,their commitment to total customer satisfaction in my case was second to none.NO BULL.

JASON replied:

Ralph i have to say if your,s is a personel problem with pedders( and you obviously cant handle objective opinions)then you should,nt have posted your opinion on this forum.As you have done so you have to expect both positive & negative responses.Here,s a few comments for you to chew on from someone who works in the automotive industry. 1.Warranty starts at time of original fitment & expires at set time after reguardless of date or amount of claimes.This is common practice with both genuine and aftermarket manufactures,not just pedders.2.As pointed out in another response rebadging of good products is also common practice in the industry maybe you should consider weather pedders are rebadged gabrial shocks or is it the other way round after all pedders were the inventers of foam cell technolagy.3.If you have lost 350k i would say it,s because of your attitude not pedders products(my opinion)if you want to recoupe some of that money i,d suggest you start by selling your computer,and leaving the rest of the planet alone..My dealings with pedders have recently included a warranty claim,their commitment to total customer satisfaction in my case was second to none.NO BULL.

JASON replied:

Ralph,i will take a few more lines to clarify some detailes i own a 1991 nissan patrol LWB and had shock failure on the way to cape york recently i rang my local pedders store from coen NQ and the store manager arranged for a replacement to be sent from the Cairns store up to Seisa beach c/van park the part arrived there the day before i did. This is all at pedders expense and my satisfaction so you can imagine how i feel having had a failure on possibly the worst roads in this country and then a replacement sent to a remote part part of australia at no expense to me." bleep RALPH YOUR A RIGHT WANKER!!".

RALPH PENISTAN replied:

have a problem with me go bleep your self

ralph replied:

your just a self opinionated blowhard what do you know bleep

jason replied:

Wow two 1 liners, you have exelled yourself with such a display of intelligence. I think you,ve shown everyone where the problem really is, i think you should drop this before it consumes you. Abusing strangers on the net because you car,nt handle their opinion is pathetic ,find something else to do .Im not going to bother replying to you anymore this is old news,get over it.

ralph replied:

LOOK whos talking you started the abuse first by calling me a wanker but I suppose in your red neck territory thats ok. If you had noticed no responce to anything until an inbeeder called jason started frothing at the mouth with his repugnant analyse of my difficulties with pedders. Freedom of speach is what it is all about red neck! if you don't care to be involved don't reply as stated before this is my experience take from it what you want .But I suppose an inbreeder like you can't tell the difference betwen reality and his brothers bum.Oh! by the way don't bother responding exploreoz and your e-mails are now blocked!!!!