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Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 21:18

Truckster (Vic)

Well on weekend up high country, found out that the rumours of these things not working in the cold once the can gets 1/2 or less are true..

Had to sit the tin infront of the camp fire (yes I was careful, and no there were better ways, but I was bleep Hungry) for min or 2 to thaw it out!

Then it worked again for while, then stopped again. I have 4 new tins in a box I carry incase, but dont want to end up with 5 x 1/2 filled tins..

Anyone found a way round this?
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AnswerID: 82646   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 21:28

Big Paul replied:

Truckster
Line up all the 1/2 empty cans really really close to the fire and put the stove behind them ( to help radiate the heat ) and run realy quickly to a store that sells the coleman duel fuel stoves and get one to your liking.
Have had one for 3 years ald love it.
Thanks
paul
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AnswerID: 82647   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 21:30

Foss replied:

Darwin awards mate ?
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FollowupID: 341705   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 21:52

Truckster (Vic) posted:

Na not that bad, it was a fair distance from the flame... more the radiant heat is all it needed, but what option do you have... freeze ya balls off like willem is suggesting?
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AnswerID: 82648   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 21:33

Willem replied:

You are supposed to put the can between your legs for a while so that it can warm up.............hahahahaha...silly bugger...don't you know nuthin?.....:o)
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FollowupID: 341704   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 21:50

Mad Dog (Victoria) posted:

Truckster aint got any room left there Willem :)




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FollowupID: 341706   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 21:53

Truckster (Vic) posted:

And freeze ya balls off!!! The tin was seriously that cold, that you couldnt hold it for too long... The only real downfall in these stoves as I see it...

and ray is right, remember the wife has been away for nearly 7 weeks.. hard enough walking as it is.
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AnswerID: 82649   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 21:39

Mad Dog (Victoria) replied:

In cold weather sleep with a can for use in the morning.




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FollowupID: 341707   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 21:54

Truckster (Vic) posted:

And how do I explain the baby tins to the wife?
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FollowupID: 341711   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 21:58

Mad Dog (Victoria) posted:

Seriously that is the way the experts do it. Throw a can in ya sleeping bag the night before. In the morning it's as warm as toast ready to power the space shuttle.




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FollowupID: 341713   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 22:02

Truckster (Vic) posted:

yea it was evenin that was the problem :'(

I thought a day in the car with a dryasabone round the box carryin the stove would have been enough!
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FollowupID: 341715   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 22:11

Mad Dog (Victoria) posted:

Yeah, must have been pretty cool up there, twas pretty warm down here. Gotta hit the sack early to meet Dave Z in the morn at Beaufort...He's taking the cruiser for a change so he must be thinking serious business...cya




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FollowupID: 341719   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 23:20

Truckster (Vic) posted:

na he just spent up big on the cruiser and wants to try it out!
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FollowupID: 341833   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 20:34

Mad Dog (Victoria) posted:

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AnswerID: 82662   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 22:40

lazylcd replied:

perhaps try placing them under the bonnet , maybe on the rocket cover for a few minutes??, havent tried it myself but couldnt be as dangerous as putting anywhere near a fire?? could it??
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FollowupID: 341720   Submitted: Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 23:22

Truckster (Vic) posted:

FFS! I dont see why people arebleeptin hot coals over putting a can 4ft from any naked flame for 1 minute!

13 yrs in the fire service, i sorta do have an idea of whats safe and whats not...
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FollowupID: 341777   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 12:23

Groove posted:

I guess that fine if you are actually allowed to have a fire
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AnswerID: 82688   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 06:34

Nudenut replied:

er........ hot water?

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FollowupID: 341761   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 11:09

Truckster (Vic) posted:

LOL need gas stove to make hot water.. The thermos had been devoured at that point...
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FollowupID: 341779   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 12:33

Nudenut posted:

but but mmm oh yeah the fire going to enable you to heat any water eh?

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FollowupID: 341829   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 20:18

Mad Dog (Victoria) posted:

Pee on it :)




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AnswerID: 82690   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 06:55

Member - Wim (Qld) replied:

Truckster,

Nudenut has the answer but not too hot.
Just luke warm. Close to boiling could produce a bomb.

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AnswerID: 82692   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 07:44

Bazza replied:

G'Day Truckster,
I'll tell you a story about a can stove ........ about 2 years ago I lent a mate's 13 year old son, a can stove of mine, to take on a school camp-out. It was about 2 years old and had little use. I had instructed him on safety and how to use it . On the night he was about to use it ... he pressed the starter and the whole thing lit up in a ball of flame. He was very lucky as he only received second degree burns to part of his right hand and arm and a good suntan on his face. It good have been much worse.
The stove was checked out but because of the intense heat, it has hard to determin
the cause, as all the seals had melted. It was eventually put down to a faulty can or stove seal, but neaver proven.
Because of this incident, I will never use can stoves again, as I'm not confident of their qualty or safety.
I continue to use a two ring gas burner and small bottle. It is less convenient than a can stove but totally serviceable, but .... "each to this own".
Regards,
Bazza.
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FollowupID: 341864   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 22:52

geocacher (djcache) posted:

Know someone who had this problem recently without injury. But they forced the can engager thinking it was stiff, the outlet was spewing out gas but not into the reciever.

Cranked the ignitor & bang.

No more stove.

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AnswerID: 82696   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 08:25

Banjo (SA) replied:

I have two and love them - BUT they are a bugger in the very cold I know - need to have an alternative then (like a campfire !). Re safety - I would never let someone junior near them - its very easy to put the can in out of position and to generate a leak... that part of them IS a worry.

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FollowupID: 341760   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 11:09

Truckster (Vic) posted:

You saw the photos Troopy Travellers put up about his that exploded?

I agree with not letting others near it... I actually had it on a table behind a 3-4ft round tree, this thing was massive! it would have stopped anything happening.

Agree with the backup, but when theres only me in the car its a perfect size :'(
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AnswerID: 82701   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 08:53

Baz (NSW) replied:

I have a trangia as a back up, haven't you got one from your bike days mate all i used to use when camping with the bike.

Baz.
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FollowupID: 341758   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 10:59

Truckster (Vic) posted:

Hmmm...

I'll have to dig it up! Hadnt thought about that old thing (If I still have it)
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FollowupID: 341775   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 12:03

Utemad posted:

Trangias are fantastic for hiking but I just bought a Primus version of these cartidge things your talking about. That was only yesterday though so short of turning it on to see if it works I haven't actually used it yet.

Should be better than carrying a 9kg bottle and 3 burner stove around.
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FollowupID: 342014   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 10:52

Truckster (Vic) posted:

"Should be better than carrying a 9kg bottle and 3 burner stove around. "

Bingo, the same reason I bought one.

I dont want to carry a bottle and single burner atachment, these cartridge stoves pack away to nothing.

Looked at a Trangia the other day, MAN have they gone up in price since I got mine!!!!
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FollowupID: 342045   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 14:23

Utemad posted:

Your not kiddin'. When I bought that cartridge stove thing they had my model Trangia for $110 or so. That's pretty expensive for some aluminium pots.
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FollowupID: 342108   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 22:22

Truckster (Vic) posted:

Trangia today at Rays $175.00!
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AnswerID: 82707   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 09:30

crfan replied:

Why not pull some coals out of the fire and cook on those ?
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AnswerID: 82724   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 12:54

GUPatrol replied:

Truckster,

I use a coleman dual fuel single burner unit (no cartridges) and it starts everytime even if I leave it outside and it is covered in snow the next morning. It is often used to thaw out everybody else's catridges until the campfire is up....
In answer to your question, a friend of mine takes two cartridges with him to bed at night, when he gets up in the morning he leaves one inside his sleeping bag and uses the other one, it runs for ten-fifteen minutes before it freezes and then he has to get the second one...

Will
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AnswerID: 82729   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 13:36

Member - Jeff M (WA) replied:

I always have and still use a 1L or 2L gas bottle with a primus burner on top. Simple, Quick, realitvly light and it has never (touch wood) let me down. I keep both bottles in the car (they are only small) and one is always full, that way you never have to worry. If one runs out even 1L on a burner like that would last AGES. Just fill the empty when you get back to town.

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AnswerID: 82738   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 15:34

Rick Blaine replied:

Having seen the damage one of those cans does when it inadvertently falls into a camp fire I'm amazed that the community doogooders have not had them banned!! Along with all LPG bottles etc....The temperance movement will want to ban Trangias.. and the greenies go very pale around the gills when you suggest a camp fire...No doubt the " friends of the sun" would take a very dim view of solar showers wasting all that sunshine dont tell them I had a little stirling cycle hot air engine that silently ran a small 12 volt generator all from a 30 cm parabolic reflector....
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AnswerID: 82832   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 22:54

Member - John (Vic) replied:

Truckster what were you doing up the High Country on the Weekend, you said last week that every man and his dog was going to be there ?
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