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Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 17:03

Tomay

We are preparing for our big trip in several years time. Step one has been the purchase of a tvan. Now for the vehicle. We have narrowed it down to either a Patrol or Landcruiser. Prefer deisel. Welcome suggestions.
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AnswerID: 82753   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 17:32

Wayne (NSW) replied:

Tomay,
I will say go Toyota and someone will say Nissan, and after last weekend at driver training I would also say go BMW X5. In a couple of years time who knows what will be on the market. It is good to see that you are starting to plan now and not 4 weeks before you go.

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FollowupID: 341809   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 17:37

Earvin Johnson posted:

Wayne,

At the risk of hijacking Tomay's thread, do tell about the X5. It obviously impressed.
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FollowupID: 341810   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 17:37

Tomay posted:

Wayne, Not waiting several years to get the vehicle. We want to take short trips first to get to know both van and vehicle very well before we disapear outback
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AnswerID: 82789   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 20:33

Kimberly Kruiser replied:

Tomay

How long is a piece of string??
So many variables in that short enquiry;
new or used
Turbo or non turbo
Up market spec or basic
Budget
asthetic appeal to name but a few.
The Nissan -v- Toyota or Toyota -v- Nissan is a long waging encounter that will always bring very biased account either way. You will hear very misinformed clangers from either band of faithfuls sledging one or the other with quite often
very little foundation.
Suggestion: Get around your local dealers and actually test drive the makes/models you are interested in. Let your own preferences make the decision
between the two.
Just the way I would go about it. Hope it helps.

Cheers
Wal.
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FollowupID: 341838   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 21:01

Tomay posted:

Thanks Wal,

Guess we have experienced a lot of the sledging you speak of.

We have looked around and just when we thought we knew what we wanted found out that , that certain model had a very common problem. Guess that is what we are really wanting to know. Not so much Patrol v Cruiser, but which models have people found very reliable and which one clangers. Also interested in the manual v auto and electric v mechanical. We have travelled a lot in the past but not off the bitumen much so have managed with a station wagon towing the old trailer. The four wheel drive scene is new to us, just know that so many locals have told us that when we go north buy one or the other as you will always be able to get spares.
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FollowupID: 341852   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 21:39

Kimberly Kruiser posted:

Tomay

I suppose it is very confusing!!
To give you a insight to my preference I have owned a variety of Tojos,about 6 from memory, a couple of those 4wd's, currently a
75 series diesel troopy. I have had one straight out of the box Nissan which tormented me for 8 months until I ditched it and brought another Tojo.
I live and tour in a fairly remote part of the country where Tojo's out number every thing else around in the 4wd scene.
I work in the mining industry where you can drive anything you like as long as its white and is a Toyota. The most popular 75 & 78 series utes and personel carriers. The last of the 80 series have just been pensioned off after 5 or 6 years of bouncing around an open cut mine, day in day out. The 100 series only survived 2 or 3 years before falling to bits, literally, bits falling off (silastic holds lots of things) and cracked
chassis. I suppose then if you compare the 80 to the 100, the 80 wins hands down. Hilux 2 and 4wd make up the rest of the fleet and are constantly pounded to death day in and day out but they keep on keeping on.
Nope theres not a Nissan in sight,on site.
Most of the stations and communities around here run various Tojo's with a fairly common theme of the ole 1HZ diesel. It would be then fairly safe to assume that parts for the ole Tojo are fairly easy to locate in some of the harshest and remote country around.
Thats my spin on it but you still have all the fun in deciding.

Cheers
Wal
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AnswerID: 82801   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 21:17

Eric Experience. replied:

Tomay.
Given that the price of fuel is set to double every 2 years, you must agree that the goal posts are moving. Before you buy consider that the thirsty vehicles are going to be very cheep/hard to sell before you start on your major trip. Most in the past have placed fuel economy at 3rd or 4th on the priority list, I would suggest 1st on the list for any trip in several years time. Eric.
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AnswerID: 82806   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 21:26

AndrewX replied:

Very simple answer Tomay. TD Cruiser is the best by far. Next is the 4.2 diesel Patrol. If your van is less than 2.5tonnes consider the TD Prado in second position. No other vehicles need be considered! I've just noticed that it's a T van ... therefore put the TD Prado to the top of the list for its economy and range - it has 180l on board in standard form and is an economical engine - therby giving great range. 1,350km of city driving and 1,500km highway is the norm. For off road as an example, the Simpson desert crossing uses about half of its fuel capacity!
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AnswerID: 82844   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 05:38

Eric from Cape York Connections replied:

We have had most makes away with us .
They all have good and bad.
The ones with all the fidly bits and gadgets they can cause troubles.
Go for the simpler ones.

All the best
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