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Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 20:20

Willem

On the way to Robe last week I weighed the truck at an official weighbridge. Needless to say I was pretty surprised to see what the GQ weighed. This weight was with a full tank of juice, tucker, normal camping gear and no unnecessary extras. It did not include the two humans, 80 litres of extra fuel or the extra spare wheel.

GVM on my GQ is 2800kg.............Ruby(the GQ) weighed in at 2740kg without occupants!

So I guess my truck will always be 300 to 400kg over the GVM limit including occupants, from time to time.
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AnswerID: 82926   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 20:38

Wayne (NSW) replied:

Willem,
It does not take much to tip them over the GVM. I weighed the 80 once at a waste transvere station (rubbish tip) so the weight would not be 100% accurate but it was very close to the 3.5 tonn. I don't want to start a my vehicle is heavier than yours war, just saying how heavy the vehicles can get with a few extras fitted. The aftermarket suspension industry rely on this too help sell heavy duty springs, and the insurance company to find a loop hole when it comes time to pay out.

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AnswerID: 82927   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 20:40

Member - Rick (S.A.) replied:

SHIRL is 3200kg, loaded with mountains of piss + 2 blokes, 2nd spare, extra fuel, tucker, water for a week.

Got to drive a bit differently when loaded like that........
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FollowupID: 341955   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 20:55

Willem posted:

Rick

How many bottles of Red equate to mountains of piss........:o)

Yeah, but your GVM is probably 3200kg
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AnswerID: 82931   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 20:46

Member - Jimbo (VIC) replied:

Willie,

Don't exaggerate, you're nothing like 300 kg's. I thought you would have only tipped the scales at around 180 kg, maybe 185 in the wet red jocks ROFLMAO.

Sorry mate.

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FollowupID: 341957   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 21:10

Willem posted:

You are going to be SORRY...........I also know people who know people who know people....hahahahaha
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FollowupID: 341975   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 23:38

Member Eric posted:

isnt there a pic , of you snatching the jerrycan Willem , send it to me , ill fix him for you lol

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FollowupID: 341982   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 06:32

Member - Jimbo (VIC) posted:

No such luck, I got it out with a shovel.
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AnswerID: 82935   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 03, 2004 at 21:13

Pete G replied:

G'day Willem

You will pleased to know that the new 3.0 Subie is allowed to tow 2300kg's. Seems that Nissan lack ba==lls in the GVM/GCM Department - it is only upto some pen pusher in our national capital, That aparrent comensense allows a prime mover to now tow a trailer heavier than the Prime Mover. Try going down the path of fitting same tyres as the ute (cost me $ 18 for the glove box sticker for my GU 2 wagon but with the ute tyres I should now have the higher GVM (I also went for the LT tyres). Rember the Eureaka Stockade and Ned Kelley

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FollowupID: 342008   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 10:20

Willem posted:

Hi Pete

It is a bit difficult to compare a '94 4by with an 04 4by. Back then the politics of ADR's and manufacturers specifications was different. Normal towing regulations Australia wide allows one to tow and object(caravan etc) 1.5 times the weight of the tow vehicle. Towing is nothing.............. stopping the beast is everything...lol

The Eureka Stockade and Ned Kelly?...sorry mate, a bit before my time...hahahahahahaha
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AnswerID: 82968   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 07:49

Patrol22 (Queanbeyan replied:

Hey Willem - great minds....etc I too took my GU 2.8tdi over a public weighbridge in Maryborough (QLD) on the way back from my recent Cape York trip. My rego papers have the truck's GVM at 2910Kgs - I went 3200kgs and this with no booze, very little food, no spare diesel and the water tank empty. I think I going to have to do something about this problem - I have an extra beefy suspension and good AT tyres but methinks the roof rack (Tradesman Oval steel with full mesh floor) will have to make way for something lighter. I really don't want to tow anything.
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FollowupID: 342009   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 10:27

Willem posted:

Pete

One forgets the bullbar, winch, HF aerial, spots, tow hitch and roof rack which must weigh a bit. My steel rims are also quite a bit heavier than the alloys, which came as standard with this model. Then there is the MDF storage system and fridge and tucker and bits'npieces.....yeah it all adds up

Maybe I should take the truck to Jenny Craig......'cause it doesn't work for me......lol
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FollowupID: 342016   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 11:00

Member - John (Vic) posted:

Willem as I was reading this thread I was just thinking that the cause of the problem could just be the very fine home cooking that you have to put up with.
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FollowupID: 342027   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 12:01

Willem posted:

John........Aren't you supposed to be at work?...or has your ship come in again lol

Yeah, the good cooking...and then your brain tells you..."Com'on you are hungry" when you aren't and all that good food settles in places that make you jump when you see your reflection in a shop window...hahahaha
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AnswerID: 82993   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 11:31

Baz (NSW) replied:

It would be interesting to know how much John Rs truck weights he told me when i was down there but can't remember excactly i know it was heavy i think heavier than our Explorer and camper combined. Looking at your rig pic the weight of your truck doesn't seem to affect you too much in the sand if you can drive off from that, a combination of good tyres with low pressure & driver skill Willem.

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FollowupID: 342024   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 11:56

Willem posted:

Hi Baz

Low tyre pressures do make life a lot easier in sandy country. A lot od people are nervous about letting the pressures down too low as they are afraid of running the tyre off the rim. If you drive carefully that won't happen. In my previous rig pic I drove into the deep sand in 1st High Range and out in 2nd Low Range without spinning the wheels unduly.

I am not sure what Johns truck weighs and it could be that he had a reasonably big fuel load on board as his rig carries 160lts.

Once in the deep sand there is no tim,e for pussyfooting around. You need momentum. My lug type Coopers did help in the sand although most outback sand driving of years ago was done in Landrovers with smooth skinny tyres and about 10psi!
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FollowupID: 342080   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 19:33

Nick R posted:

I think JohnR's rig is up around 3.6t with the box on the back all packed up and with fuel. It also has a heavy piece of steel welded across the chassis above the rear spring mounts which added another 30 or so Kgs. I know when I took it up to the Howqua in January I had to take it easy, needed a really stiff anti roll bar!!! It handled well on the freeway but really noticed the roll on the Goulburn Valley Highway. We were packed up with gear for 8 people, needed a few more pounds in the bags. He thought we might have tipped the 4 t mark.
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FollowupID: 342137   Submitted: Friday, Nov 05, 2004 at 08:48

Truckster (Vic) posted:

"A lot of people are nervous about letting the pressures down too low as they are afraid of running the tyre off the rim"

Good point Mr Willem...
I dont know why so many people are that worried about letting tires down. You hear some say "I went down from 38psi down to a low of 30psi.." which is nothing really!

I've run similar pressures, 12-14psi many times, no issues, BUT its all about HOW you drive with lower pressures.. If you hit a corner flatout and swing the steering, you have a very good chance of rolling a tire off.. but if you use your brain and realise that you dont really need to drive at Warp Factor 12 Mr Sulu you should be quite safe...

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FollowupID: 342183   Submitted: Friday, Nov 05, 2004 at 17:59

Member - JohnR (Vic) posted:

G'day Baz,

Back home from the races now, went to Oaks Day to meet my bankers and their bosses.

I have seen on here before about fully laden Troopies and breadboxes being at a mass of about 3.8t so all going well beyond their GVMs so I guess that is why we all lift the capacity of the rear springs.

I really think the problem of last weeks bogging was the soft sand rather than anything else at the point where I was. There were four bogged on that beach that day and all lighter than my vehicle guys. I had been running at 16-17psi and dropped to 12 psi but higher up the beach. I don't know what footprint others had though, some were definitly wider like Andrews 100 and muddies have teeth to dig holes with as Eric showed after when he went to the chassis in an easy spot.
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AnswerID: 83099   Submitted: Friday, Nov 05, 2004 at 08:52

Truckster (Vic) replied:

Is there anyway to upgrade the GVM limit on a vehicle?
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