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Evakool fitted with the Danfoss BD 35 Compressor

Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 15:00

palla

Hi guys,

I have the above mentioned unit here & it is faulty. I have seen some threads posted late 2002 early 2003 regarding the problems with htese units & noted that the compressors were getting changed out. I have one of these units that had a repair attempt done on it. The 'fridgy' disconnected some wires from the boost switch & removed some resistors from that cct & now it doesnt work & cant get a hold of him.

I need the cct/wiring diagram to see where these wires go & the function of the resistors (value & where they go). can anyone supply the info or a .pdf of the wiring diagram.

Palla
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AnswerID: 87276   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 16:01

Member - Raymond replied:

Hi Palla
The following PDF should give you the right directions. Worth fitting the diagnostic LED light into the system
Regards Ray

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AnswerID: 87277   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 16:01

David Au replied:

There were no problems with evaKool fridges or the Danfoss compressors, and never have been Danfoss compressors 'getting changed out'.
Suggest you get in touch with the manufacturer evaKool Contacts
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FollowupID: 346027   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 19:05

BigPop posted:

There were problems with the early Evakool fridges. My SIL has about 4 of them of all different size - where they were returned to the factory becasue of the colling units stuffing up , the compressors etc were removed, holes plugged and they were sold as 2nd hand ice boxes for a song.
The newer ones seem to be fine now.
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FollowupID: 346033   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 19:48

David Au posted:

BigPod you are way off course here. That was when they used the SupaKool compressor and were not called evaKool at that time. That is now well ancient history from the deep dark ages.
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FollowupID: 346052   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 21:01

BigPop posted:

Well what you say maybe so but how do you explain 'Evakool' logo's on the ice boxes and they come from the early 'fridges' Evakool made.
No sign of any so called Supakool logos etc and are the same as the Evakool's but with a few plugged up holes in them.
Another mate bought an 'Evakool' fridge with Danfoss compressor a few years back - paid over $1100 for it and it stuffed up real quick - had all sorts of problems gettng it repaired and eventaully gave up the ghost and uses it as an ice box - even though a very dear one.
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FollowupID: 346061   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 21:39

David Au posted:

BigPop stop telling downright lies. Always a mate or something else with no names or dates - hearsay as usual = lies.
BigPop you are a typical Internet story teller with zero knowledge or credibility.
As soon as you liars are caught out, you delve to the bottom of the rubbish bin to trawl up trash and lies which you can never ever back up.
Danfoss Australia and evaKool have always stood 100% behind their products.
We have plenty of authorities to protect consumers if the agents and/or manufactures do not back their product. The next thing you will tell us that Consumer Affairs are useless and hopeless.
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FollowupID: 346082   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 06:04

BigPop posted:

David Au I treat your comments with the the contempt they deserve.!!!!! and am not getting into a slanging match with a stirring fool.!!!


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FollowupID: 346099   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 07:42

Mark posted:

I had 2 Supakool fridges & they were fitted with a compressor supplied by Micro Compressors QLD. I had no end of problems & I understand that the main problems were due to gas pressure increasing when the unit was turned off. They only ran about 4 psi when running but this increased when they were turned off & hence leaks developed. Anyway I gave up in the end & they offered a Danfoss compressor retrofit for $500 so I went with it. Micro Compressors went bust & as they carried the warranty, supakool were left with a big problem. They changed there name to Evakool it seems at around the time they started fitting the Danfoss units, I guess the old name had built up a bit of a reputation shall we say. Anyway its run like a charm since (5 years) & my mate has one of the newer models & is very happy with it. Hope this helps clear up some of the "confusion" above.
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FollowupID: 346109   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 11:34

Nudenut posted:

danfoss are very reputable builder of refrigeration compressors 12vdc thru to 415v ac

manufacturers may have had build problems which can affect the operation of other manufactured items. IE the manufacturer of the evaporator may have used contaminated tubing which can result in a compressor failure. Same for Danfoss...A batch of wiring used to make the motor in the compressor may not have been maufactured to danfoss specs and subsequently failed!

However, I'd back Danfoss any time!!! they dont make crap!!! i assure you.

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FollowupID: 346112   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 11:47

Mad Dog (Victoria) posted:

Good one Nudie, there's more to a than the compressor and what about build quality.




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FollowupID: 346125   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 16:03

Mad Dog (Victoria) posted:

They never do vibration, drop, kick, or rugrat tests. We already know that most of the fridges are very good when it comes to efficiency but what about durability. We already know about the Engel, they have been proven already but what about the others.




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FollowupID: 346128   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 16:46

Member - Ivan (ACT) posted:

David Au - I don't know where you get off..

This is the second post where someone has disagreed with you and copped an undeserved blast of childish abuse.

I was on the end of the last one, simply for clarifying one of your statements.

If you can't cope with differing points of view (this IS a forum), without losing it and abusing people - then go elsewhere, you are not welcome here

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FollowupID: 346135   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 17:27

Mad Dog (Victoria) posted:

Ivan, this guy is a serial pest who has been banned from a number of forums because of his antisocial behaviour. He used to be on here under the alias of Oziexplorer but left saying he would never return after a few got the better of him but yeah he can't help himself and is back. He is known for having a number of different Alias's on the same forum at one time and answers himself in support of his theorys and ideas. He sticks worse than chewing gum.




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AnswerID: 87281   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 17:47

Peter 2 replied:

Well actually there are probs with the older danfoss compressors, well actually with the electronic control unit rather tha the compressor itself.
I'm not sure of the model but it would be about 10 years old, basically when the control unit fails then you have to replace both it and the compressor with a later unit as the controllers and bits for them on the earlier units are non existant.
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FollowupID: 346034   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 19:55

David Au posted:

evaKool have only used Danfoss compressor for around six years and all parts are available.
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AnswerID: 87284   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 19:01

palla replied:

Thanks guys for your speedy responses & Ray for the cct diagram . The .PDF is exactly what I need. Ill get the soldering iron out & see what I can do.

Palla
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AnswerID: 87298   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 21:12

porlsprado replied:

If it means anythinng i bought a 30L waeco with the first danfoss compressors to arrive in Aus. when they launched the range about, roughly must be 4 years ago maybe, have been on many trips with it, being the FF series and made in Germany i believe the insulation is, well, average if not awful, but the compressor is still excellent and pulls down in a brisbane heatwave to full minus -18C no problem so i expect there was no problem with "original danfoss35B compressors"
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AnswerID: 87309   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 01:08

palla replied:

Well it is now all repaired. The faults were as follows:

Original fault
1. The resistors failed, leaving an open on the Boost/economy cct.
2. Who ever manufactured the wiring looms should be shot. They were poorly crimped, especially the ones with 2 wires in them. (Quality control on the appentice recommended)
Potential Fault
3. The 2 pole power plug on the chasis is under sized for the cable used and is starting to chafe through insulation. (Recommended changeout)

So in general the German parts seem to be of good quality & the controller has good diagnostics with the fault LED, just sems some simple faults in manufacture with the wiring looms. If anyone has probs with theirs I'd recommend to take the cover off & tug on the wires between the controller & the thermo switch & pwr/on/off switches.

Also can anyone confirm that the thermo has an impact cutout feature? In testing I was tapping the thermo with the back of a screwdriver, the 'running' LED would go out compressor stops then starts again after about 2 seconds. This is with a short sharp tap with the screwdriver. I could repeat it reguarly, so I think its a feature rather than a fault. If the going gets tough the compressor shuts off for protection. Anyone else believe?

Palla
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FollowupID: 346111   Submitted: Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 11:45

Nudenut posted:

???
its not meant to be tapped and it certainly wouldnt have an "impact cut-out faeture"

Can you think of any reason why it would need one?

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