fuel catalysts

Submitted: Sunday, Aug 14, 2005 at 16:55
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Have come across some information via another site that may explain the feasability of some of the claims made about fuel catalysts.
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Reply By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Sunday, Aug 14, 2005 at 18:35

Sunday, Aug 14, 2005 at 18:35
Oh No!

Now i expect we will see some fireworks!

Ian
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Reply By: Exploder - Sunday, Aug 14, 2005 at 18:41

Sunday, Aug 14, 2005 at 18:41
It brought up some very valid point’s that make the manufactures calms look even shiftier.

I found it interesting that they clam it rases the octane rating of fuel. How would it do this remembering the main ingredient in raising octane is Toluene or benzene> (Very toxic) also other chemicals and BP will recommend adding Toluene to fuel to increase the octane rating so how can a tin cylinder accomplish this.

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Follow Up By: warthog - Sunday, Aug 14, 2005 at 23:39

Sunday, Aug 14, 2005 at 23:39
I've read that tin acts like lead as an octane booster and the reason it is not introduced at the refinery is that it is not held in suspension in the fuel during storage, don't know how true that is though. I listened to the advice of a mate who reckons a tin catalyst worked well in his bosses diesel ute and installed one in my diesel patrol. I found it has done nothing to improve economy or power. What I did find though, was that a yellow top optima battery leaves a nice dent in your guard when it slips out of your hands whilst removing it to fit the stupid catalyst. 'Spose it serves me right for being stupid enough to fit one.....might buy a hiclone next.
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Follow Up By: theshadows - Monday, Aug 15, 2005 at 19:29

Monday, Aug 15, 2005 at 19:29
It is true and they do work in older cars...Did they mention you need abour 2.5 k of tin for every 100 ltrs.....?
shadow
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Reply By: Member - Bill S (NSW) - Monday, Aug 15, 2005 at 23:06

Monday, Aug 15, 2005 at 23:06
HI Warthog,In answer to your question all claims made by FITCH can be substanciated if all would bother to read the webb site. Also I might add it is not the container housing the catalyst it is the metals housed there within which react on the fuel. I have just changed my injection pump after 480,000klms of which 180,000 has accrued with FITCH fitted. I have asked the diesel expert to evaluate the condition of the pump on dismantling and to report on the findings.This report I will post when completed and we will all learn something,except myself who already knows. Keep an eye out guys and learn something.

Regards BILLS
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Follow Up By: awill4x4 - Monday, Aug 15, 2005 at 23:49

Monday, Aug 15, 2005 at 23:49
Bill S. I'll ask you the same question that was unanswered on a separate topic. Are you in fact Bill Sheather?

Southern NSW
DISTRIBUTOR
BARRACK HEIGHTS NSW 2528
Fitch® Fuel Catalyst (Southern NSW)
Taveflat Pty.Ltd. ( Bill Sheather )

The same Bill Sheather who was involved in the "independant" test at Vipac that was paid for by Fitch.
"The two tests were driven by Mr. Bill Sheather (Fitch Fuel Catalyst Australia Pty. Ltd.),"

Now that sounds like a "really" independant test.
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Follow Up By: warthog - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 16:49

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 16:49
My independant test although not a fitch, still a tin catalyst, has proven to me they don't do squat.
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Follow Up By: warthog - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 16:52

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 16:52
Unless you have an inline filter between the bleep Z and the pump you may find an errant piece of tin has been through and roooted your pump.
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Reply By: Member - Bill S (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 18:51

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 18:51
In answer to awill4x4 yes the one and the same and it would appear am indipendant test as all i did was drive MY vehicle thru the designated tests as directed by VIPAC industrys. Now if you have any brains at all you would realise that there is no way this report would have been signed if all aspects of the test were not adhered to. And I dont care a rats if you doubters out there want to waste your money and run without fitch fitted after all you make it you waste it. But I and other users will forever be putting a couple of dollars back in our pockets each 100klms we drive. Iwould understand the negativity from those who havenot tried this product on a properly maintained vehicle.But please refrain from comments until you know what you are talking about. One thing you all must remember there are drivers and there are drivers.YEA YEA

REgards BILLS
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Follow Up By: awill4x4 - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 21:45

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 21:45
Sorry Bill, there's a basic premise about "independant" testing that you and Fitch seem to misunderstand. That for all to be "above board" the test should be performed "hands off" Tobacco companies used to perform independant testing all the time and just how skewed was the info from them.
At your Vipac test, just who did all the work fitting the Fitch catalyst/s? Vipac or Fitch? If Fitch, why? Why choose a vehicle with about 300,000 km on the clock?
A much more meaningful test would be for you to get it done by "Choice" magazine from the consumers association and get them to select the vehicle/s, preferably new so any unexplained emmissions from new can be checked prior to testing. (no 300,000 km used vehicles where the abnormal can be explained away as possibly old age) You supply the Fitch catalyst and explain where it needs to be fitted but have Choice engineers fit it themselves. The testing is then performed by Choice with the vehicle/s at normal running temps so that one test isn't done from cold and one at hot. The testing should be performed 1st without then with Fitch and repeat the process at least twice but preferably more.
Then and only then will some form of credence be accepted. Blanket assertions about independant testing can't and shouldn't be accepted at face value unless corroboration is forthcoming from another party and only if that party's reputation is above reproach.
You can claim the Vipac test was independant but as soon as you put your hands on the car through the test your claim of independance flew out the window.
Regards Andrew.
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