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Hj47- and 60 series compare

Submitted: Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 07:35

rhino_oz

Hi everybody
I have a HJ47 81 model ute( 2H) which I love and will keep but it needs major surgery. I found a 60 series wagon with the same 2H motor and a 5 speed box. It has only done 150,000km and I know the owner, servised at Toyota and one owner.
I could buy that one for a bout $8,000 and I'm thinking of taking motor and gearbox out to put it in my ute. What I need to know is if it all fits and would love to know what other Landcruiser owners think.
Thank you
Reiner / Brisbane
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AnswerID: 127751   Submitted: Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 12:34

Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) replied:

. Personally I would be loathe to cannabalise a perfectly good vehicle
you dont need to leave perth to go bush
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AnswerID: 127775   Submitted: Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 14:49

Tuff60 replied:

Sell you a 2H and an unfitted ARB turbo for half that. But yeah, you may need to shift the cross member for the gearbox, other than that easy.
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FollowupID: 384212   Submitted: Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 22:10

Beast2H posted:

Tuff 60 would u sell the ARB turbo kit on its own?
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FollowupID: 385501   Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 09:32

Tuff60 posted:

Sorry to take so long to reply.
Yeah I will sell the Turbo set up loose, would prefer to sell whole lot together. I am overseas at the moment, will be back some time before Christmas, if you can wait till then let me know.
Removeing the 2H either way as I will most likely be bringing back a brand new 8.1 Vortec Chev and Allison 5 speed auto to go in the 60, if the gearbox will fit.
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FollowupID: 385641   Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 22:56

Beast2H posted:

How Much Would u be asking for it and what is your email?
P.S. where are u situated?
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FollowupID: 386000   Submitted: Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 18:22

Tuff60 posted:

To sell it separately, I would be looking for around a $1100.
I'm in NY USA at the moment, but will be back in Melbourne VIC before christmas.
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AnswerID: 127801   Submitted: Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 19:43

theshadows replied:

the motor is the same and drop in with your engine mounts but the box is a different kettle of fish.

with the box being a five speed your mount should work..... I said should work? but you will need different drive shafts and I dont think the 60 series shafts will fit. the good news is you should be able to use your own diffs though the the 60 series diffs have a lower ratio for better hy-way work.

shadow
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AnswerID: 127830   Submitted: Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 22:02

rhino_oz replied:

Thanks for your thoughts everybody, I know it hurts to pull a car like that apart but I think its still a smart way to give the old beast a new life.
I have a talk to the mechanic and see what he says. Pretty sure thats the way I go.
Thanks again and drive safe
cheers
Reiner
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AnswerID: 127839   Submitted: Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 22:23

Peter replied:

having owned a hj75 (which has pretty well the same set up as the hj60) and now driving a hj47 i thing you could spend your $8000 in a better way.
i would rebuild your engine and rebuild the 4 speed box(and transfer case) in the hj47. to get an overdrive i would put a fairy overdrive in. this would end up costing you i think less than $8000 all up. engine around $4000, box and transfer case around $3000 and overdrive less than $1000.
that to me makes more sense because you then basically have a new drivetrain that will last you another 500,000 kilometres. i would rather that than a second hand motor and gearbox that has 150,000 kilometres and may need work done soon. especially the gearbox as they do have a tendency to throw 5th gear after 200,000 klms and that requires a rebuild.
from my experience the original ratios on the hj47 make for a quicker accelerating vehicle than the hj60 and with the overdrive installed you get the fuel savings of the overdrive.
anyway that is what i would do to my hj47 if i had the money.
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FollowupID: 382482   Submitted: Friday, Sep 02, 2005 at 07:10

rhino_oz posted:

Thanks for your thoughts Peter, I was told an engine rebuild would be very close to $8000 alone. Forgot to mention I score a power steering and AC as well for that money plus the 5 speed box and keep heaps of spare parts after all that.
Who should I talk to regarding an engine rebuild here in Brisbane?
I might have to do some more homework on this.
cheers
Reiner
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FollowupID: 382729   Submitted: Saturday, Sep 03, 2005 at 17:47

Tanka posted:

I once had a HJ47 ute with a fairy overdrive. It was better then a 4 spd on the fwy but not as good as a 5spd. (More like 4.5th gear.) I dont think it would be that hard to fit a 5spd out of a 60 or a 75series. If you are travelling on freeways, you'll never look back from a 5spd.
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FollowupID: 382749   Submitted: Saturday, Sep 03, 2005 at 20:04

Peter posted:

cant help you with regards to a brisbane mechanic as i live in victoria. as for the price of the rebuild i would say a lot of it has got to do with how extensive it will be. also how greedy the mechanic is as well.
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