Baby seats and 4x4

Submitted: Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 12:58

B. Ryan

Can baby capsules be fitted to all duel cab utes, I have heard that they dont fit in Extra cab's (ie front doors only) the old single cab will have to go and I need a ute that can be used for work , play and soon family transport.
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Reply By: Utemad - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 13:42

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 13:42
Never fitted one into an extra cab but I wouldn't think so. No room for the lay down ones and I wouldn't think the upright ones would go either due to the nature of the seats. Easiest way is to check if the ute has got baby harness points listed. I know Rodeo dual cabs only got them after about 1999. Pretty sure Navaras didn't have them before then either.
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Follow Up By: vitara - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 14:10

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 14:10
Hi there Utemad, I know my mates navara didn't have a child anchor point in his navara 91 model
but had the centre lap sash belt. He has put a huge 5ml plate in welded to the back then put the child anchor point in. Has a full harness for there 2 year old in a baby seat not a capsule. Don't think it's legal was never engineered by any one, but mind you it looks stronger than his own seat belt plus extra safety in her harness. Regards Vitara
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 14:24

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 14:24
When I bought my 1997 Rodeo in 2000 it already had a similar aftermarket one installed. It bolts through the back wall below the rear cab window and rivets into the roof (double skin) above the rear window. It works for both the old orange press button thingo as well as the newer hook. Never used it though and removed it because it blocked my view out the back window.

It was legal though. Have a mod plate under the bonnet.
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Follow Up By: vitara - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 14:30

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 14:30
Yeah my mates plate is about 20 cm square 5ml thick and welded to the back outside of the cab and also takes both the differnet type bolts but was never engineered . Doesn't block his view in any way. Regards Vitara
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Reply By: Leroy - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 13:43

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 13:43
My '00 Rodeo DC had an anchor point so that will cover up to the '02 also. Maybe other owners of other DC models can post?

Leroy
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Reply By: Wombat - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 13:47

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 13:47
Triton duel cabs have two anchor points.
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Reply By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 13:55

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 13:55
Don't ever put one in the front seat, especially if the vehicle has air bags. (;-((
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Follow Up By: vitara - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 14:14

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 14:14
Hi there Mrbitchi, I think that's law isn't it not to have a child in the front with a vehicle that has dual airbags, I know thats in my log books for my commodore but doesn't say wether that's law or not ???? Regards Vitara
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 22:58

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 22:58
It's law in NSW but not in Vic. Not sure in other states.

It's amazing how few people know that kids shouldn't sit in the front seat of cars with airbags, or have never given any thought as to the reasons why not.

It's also amazing how few people know that kids should be in a booster seat of some sort until they are much older than 5 or 6.

Watch the cars leaving the kinder carpark and see how many leave with kids in the front at the age of 5 when the back seat is empty. You might as well tell your kids to go play on the white lines. Its possibly safer (sarcasm).

Funny how those parents change their opinion when you do a bit of education (in uniform) and point out that they are risking killing their child if they are involved in a crash - particularly if the vehicle has airbags.

Keep the kids in the back until they are about 12 years old. Even without airbags. (Seat anti submarining mechanisms play a big part too)

Dave
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Reply By: vitara - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 14:05

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 14:05
Got 2 anchor points behind the back seat in my 89hilux bit sqiushy in the passengers front seat with a capsule behind, have to slide the seat forward a bit. No anchor point in the middle only on either side behind driver and passenger seats. If there's no anchor point behind passenger seat than I'd say your not ment to have a child in the xtra cab???. I no my mates single cab has one behind his passengers seat in his hilux, but he told me can only put a booster seat in not a capsule not sure if thats a law or not. Regards Vitara
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Reply By: Member - Bigbear - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 14:12

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 14:12
Hi
Have tried to fit one in a Ford Courier dual cab. Not enough room behind the front seats to fit it as per instructions. Finished up we had to go to a sedan for the baby capsule.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 23:02

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 23:02
Don't think we tried the capsule in our dual cab '02 Courier. It has two anchor points and we did use a reverse facing Safe'n'sound Retractor.

Now both it and the other forward facing seat are in there facing forward.

Dave
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Reply By: Ted (Cairns) - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 16:03

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 16:03
Hilux Xtra cab has 2 anchor points. You can fit a child seat behind the passenger seat BUT it's a very tight fit for both child and passenger. I STRONGLY advise you to get something with 4 doors - getting a baby in and out maybe several times a day, with no rear doors is a total (back)pain! I changed cars for this very reason.
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Reply By: MATT.D(WA) - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 17:21

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 17:21
I've got an '05 Navara dc and it doesn't have any anchor points. I've been told to speak to transport authority to find out the best place to locate it. In the same situation as you as we have our first one on the way also.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 19:16

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 19:16
That's how Nissan get there 3t towing capacity... They realise that by the time you put 5000 nappies, formula, bottles, porta-cot, wipes, cotton buds, nappy rash cream, 300 spare changes of clothes for the weekend and 5 crates of toys, you've already exceeded the rear axle load and you can't legally tow a trailer...
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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 22:44

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 22:44
Best freind has a '04 dual cab Nissan Navara. It doesn't have child restraint points.

:o) Melissa
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